Will my IVA company take my private pension if I cash it in ?

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Carol.31

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Post by Carol.31 » Thu Oct 06, 2016 3:02 am
I'm on an I v a with 2 years to go, I can cash my private pension in it's only 8,000 but will Knightsbridge take it off me for the Iva.
 
 

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Post by Foggy » Thu Oct 06, 2016 8:06 am
If you simply cash it is they will take it, unless, as is sometimes the case, pensions and proceeds have been specifically excluded.

However, you could OFFER to draw down the pension to provide a full and final settlement ( the amount based on the remaining payments due). The proviso being that, if they reject your full and final offer, you will not draw the pension and it will not be available to the IVA.
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Post by Lisa Thomas » Thu Oct 06, 2016 9:36 am
Yes unless you put forward a F&F offer to settle the remaining payments and get the variation accepted FIRST. Make sure you take advice from a pension specialist before doing anything.
I'm a licensed IP with 16+ yrs at Neville & Co covering the South West area. I have a YouTube channel with advisory videos on here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMPTTu ... Z5k9ZcC2MA http://www.nevilleco.co.uk 01752 786800 Lisa@nevilleco.co.uk
 
 

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Post by sponge » Thu Oct 13, 2016 12:37 pm
Lisa

I'm going to be super nice about but it but does a annoy me a little..What is the point of an IVA if it can get at your pension when in bankruptcy you are protected from any IPO getting at it?
 
 

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Post by sponge » Thu Oct 13, 2016 12:39 pm
That's to say it is beyond the reach of any BR IP
 
 

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Post by Michael Peoples » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:13 pm
If the funds are drawn down then they can be seized in bankruptcy also and are only protected if they remain untouched. Any income from an annuity can be used for income payments purposes so an IVA is not worse than bankruptcy.

However, if you have a pension pot worth more than your debt you may be refused a bankruptcy order as the insolvency service may deem you to be solvent whereas you could propose an IVA.
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Post by sponge » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:52 pm
thanks for your replies..I really must read the small print, un-drawn pensions are protected when available (55)
in BR so same as IVA...eat humble pie Sponge...swallowed
 
 

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Post by Michael Peoples » Thu Oct 13, 2016 2:35 pm
No humble pie needed Sponge. It is a complicated area and been subject to a number of changes and legal challenges over the last couple of years so hardly surprising it is confusing. In addition I have heard of IP firms suggesting their clients surrender pension policies and I am sure some people have.
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Post by Lisa Thomas » Thu Oct 13, 2016 3:10 pm
If you voluntarily surrender your pension, in an IVA or BKY it's available as an asset to the estate.

I haven't read too much detail on the pension debacle yet but my understanding is:

The latest pension squabble was over a Bankrupt who was entitled to draw his annuities, which were of a material sum, that would have enable contributions to be available into the Bankruptcy estate if he drew them.

There was only one draw down option available and he was only refusing to stop his creditors from getting the money.


In that case it was deemed acceptable that the OR/Trustee could force a debtor to draw this down.

In the second case there were various different options open to the debtor about drawing down their pension and the Judge deemed it was not in order for the OR/Trustee to make that decision.
I'm a licensed IP with 16+ yrs at Neville & Co covering the South West area. I have a YouTube channel with advisory videos on here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMPTTu ... Z5k9ZcC2MA http://www.nevilleco.co.uk 01752 786800 Lisa@nevilleco.co.uk
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