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Post by kallis3 » Sat Jun 12, 2010 5:07 pm
I would not advise stopping anything until you have spoken to the IP.
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Post by The Major » Sat Jun 12, 2010 6:28 pm
The same IP who signed you up to this nonsense, the same IP who is going to lose money on this one,I think I know what your IP may say they will be less than chuffed, if you are to speak with anyone choose someone free and independant, like the CAB or National Debtline you have paid out enough.
 
 

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Post by kallis3 » Sat Jun 12, 2010 6:37 pm
Speak to the IP in the first place before making any drastic decisions.
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Post by The Major » Sat Jun 12, 2010 6:47 pm
Actually Kallis could be right speaking to the IP first may not be a bad idea it will be an opportunity to give him a piece of your mind after asking him why other than the fees he was making why he signed you up to this nonsense
 
 

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Post by MelanieGiles » Sat Jun 12, 2010 7:09 pm
Can someone explain to me what a debt management payment running alongside an IVA actually is - and more importantly how it works?

And also to the original poster - what made you decide on selecting an IVA as your preferred debt solution in the first place. Are you actually saying that the option of bankruptcy was never discussed with you - or that you simply exercised your own choice in offering an IVA to creditors? If the latter - were you motivated by a desire to repay the debts that you have borrowed - or were there any other reasons?
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Post by The Major » Sat Jun 12, 2010 7:14 pm
I would imagine the debt management payment was the fee paid to the first call for help to be passed on to an IP.
 
 

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Post by MrsKnight » Sat Jun 12, 2010 8:23 pm
Melanie - on reading this over again, I think they went through a DMP plan option before the IVA became active so to speak. Or they could of been passed from one company to a sister IVA company & paid a fee for doing so.
Is X debt a new company? As Ive never heard of them before.

Nanasue, this forum is an amazing support & though Im not a expert the people on here are very sincere in there advice.
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Post by nanasue » Sun Jun 13, 2010 9:03 am
Where to begin? When my hubby and I realised that our debts were getting increasingly deeper, I searched on line for answers to the problem. Having found what I thought was a "government managed" debt solution firm I contacted them. (Hanover Sterling) I discovered from them that a) we would have to run a debt management programme and IVA concurrently. b)They in turn put us in touch with X Debt and in time two lots of forms followed. It seemed at the time that Hanover Sterling and X Debt worked together regularly in assisting debtors. As things proceeeded we were informed that, we would have to pay Hanover Sterling a fee of £204 for the first month, and depending on whether we were accepted
by either company further fees were arranged, after completion of forms and acceptance by either company.
The whole process took approximately 2 months to complete and after some discussion regarding the £204 payment to Hanover Sterling, and a warning of going bankrupt from us to Hanover Sterling they agreed to reduce the payment to £200 for the first month. We then had to wait to hear from either company Hanover Sterling and X debt, to see which payment plan we would be accepted on. I have to say that, Hanover Sterling did not discuss the possibility of our going Bankrupt, and the fee we paid was in lieu of any creditors harrasing us. Which meant that any further harrassment would be dealt with by them by means of our passing on demanding letters, or telling creditors who telephoned who to contact at Hanover Sterling as we waited to hear which debt programme would be accepted first. Not very much was done by Hanover Sterling in this regard, and looking back I feel that we were led astray somewhat for the sake of £200.

There was no discussion of the £200 being passed on to anyone. This was purely up front payment to Hanover Sterling to keep wolves from the door while our paperwork was being processed by both firms.

After a few days following the £200 payment, we eventually had word from X Debt informing us that our paper work was now complete and a date set for meeting with creditors. I should say that we were advised our best course of action would be an IVA, as suggested by X Debt. The possibility of bankruptcy was discussed, and we were informed that it would cost us in the region of £1500 for both our names to be registered bankrupt. As we did not have that type of money and could not possibly raise it, there was no further discussion on that matter. We still feel that to find £1500 for bankruptcy would be difficult, that is until I found this site and am beginning to realise it may not be as impossible as I first thought.

Prior to our IVA being accepted and finalised a monthly payment was agreed on for the next 5 years, taking into consideration our financial situation. (Incomings and outgoings) Although, we knew things would be hard for us, and contingency plans for unexpected expenses were overlooked by ourselves and X debt, we let things progress. Our only thought was that we could not afford to be made bankrupt and we felt with the pressure of all the outstanding debt, the IVA as explained to us was the only way forward. We needed to pay off the debts and we needed someone of professional standing to help us.

Since making our first payments and now the dust has settled so to speak, as I have already stated in earlier comments, we have realised that this is going to be a struggle for us. We both feel the pressure of meeting the payments. Which on reflection, leaves us very little money for our daily needs, no way of putting funds aside for any unexpected expenses. Every penny has to be accounted for and I find myself doing mental sums when I go shopping for food, and utility bills once a week.

Added to which, it now feels that instead of feeling relief and feeling better about paying off our debts, we have exchanged all that for the worry of meeting our monthly payments. Keeping ourselves fed, and paying for our utility needs, wondering how we will afford to pay our vehicle tax and Mot, and can we afford £10 worth of diesel this week, can we affordto treat our grandson, what will we have to sacrifice this week if we do? And no light at the end of the tunnel for at least 5 years.

I dont know what makes sense any more and the more I worry about it, the less it makes sense.
 
 

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Post by nanasue » Sun Jun 13, 2010 9:08 am
I just also wanted to say, a big thank you to all who have replied and cannot explain how grateful I am for any and all support and suggestions. It is most helpful, thank you so much!
 
 

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Post by The Major » Sun Jun 13, 2010 10:24 am
Hi Nanasue

From what you have read I think Hanover Sterling and X debt have been reasonable with you, its just that they sold you possibly the only product they deal with when it was another product which would have been better, it just shows when in debt dont grab the first Olive branch held out to you, reasearch the internet, get free advice, and look at all solutions to relieve the misery of being in debt. At least now you can look forward to a better future, and remember it will take a few months for the IVA to fail so you have time to save the bankruptcy fees, there is plenty of free help to fill them on the sister site www.bankruptcyhelp.org.uk will asist if needed,and of course the CAB Good Luck from The Major
 
 

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Post by kallis3 » Sun Jun 13, 2010 11:16 am
I am presuming that the figure quoted for BR was for them to help you. Currently fees are £600 per person which is still less than they said.

Personally, I don't think the advice they received was the best, but you do grab at the first lifeline thrown at you.

People who find this forum first have the benefit of all the professional advice and personal experience of those of us in an IVA, DMP or BR.

Ufortunately there are a lot more desperate people out there who haven't a clue what to do.
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Post by MelanieGiles » Sun Jun 13, 2010 2:22 pm
What a shame that the bankruptcy discussions held did not extend to the fact that if you were to save your £200 for six months then you could have afforded to declare yourselves bankrupt. It seems that this was glossed over - and you have committed to a 60 month plan whereas a 6 month plan might have brought you a better long-term opportunity - which bizarrely you now seem to realise is the best option.

If you have decided that bankrupcy is better, I would inform your IP straight away of your intent to file and that you will not be making any more payments. As you have an IVA in place - this may not be failed for a few months and therefore you will benefit from its protection whilst you save the money for your Court fees.
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Post by nanasue » Mon Jun 14, 2010 8:51 am
Thank you again all who have responded to my postings. Apart from feeling a little better about our situation, I would like to say how kind and helpful everyone has been and advice given has been well noted.

It is a sad state of affairs when one finds oneself in this situation suddenly realising how many more people must be undergoing these problems too and many more in the dark about how to resolve their debts. I for one will certainly do my best to point anyone who should ask, to this site. It has been for me at least, a very helpful experience and will continue to watch with interest. And if possible post anything that may be of help when I can. Going to gather my thoughts today and suggestions from here and contact IP with a view to going bankrupt. I can only imagine that it is possible an attempt will be made to dissuade this decision. But nothing ventured, nothing gained. Thank you once again and I will be in touch. Your kindness and support has been most welcome, and I am wishing everyone in similar circumstances the very best for the future.
 
 

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Post by Pandy » Mon Jun 14, 2010 6:25 pm
Let us know how is goes Nanasue,
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Post by kallis3 » Mon Jun 14, 2010 6:44 pm
Good luck nanasue, let us know how things go.
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