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by luluj » Mon Apr 24, 2017 2:37 pm
John ... intrigued to know which dept of CS you work in. I work for DWP and they did not insist on any details. Just an awareness.
Colleagues who after me when bankrupt were only asked to inform them and were not allowed to administer any benefit payments - one swapped into a non advisory role and the other remained as a adviser.
Stand your ground ... the rules have not changed - you only need to inform them.
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by Johng79 » Mon Apr 24, 2017 5:54 pm
im in dept for communities in northern ireland here (used to be dwp). I dont process payments either. Waiting on personnel officer advising me exactly what they want if i do take iva.

Bad enough that iv got in this mess, without additional stress for being honest.

Ideal scenario is take iva, tell personnel i have one and write them a paragraph explaining poor decision making in my youth etc. Hopefully no more than that, but its never that easy lol.
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by Johng79 » Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:35 pm
Theres the official guidance from my staff handbook. As you can see quite vague re. Submit details as they require.
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by Johng79 » Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:40 pm
Tried to add attachment from my staff handbook, but not sure it worked, so copied it below.

20.1 You are expected to conduct your private financial affairs in a judicious
manner. If you become bankrupt or insolvent, you must at once inform your
Establishment/Personnel Officer. Failure to do so is a disciplinary offence. You
will be required to submit such details as the Department may require. If public
funds have been, or are likely to have been involved (but not otherwise), you may
be suspended. If there is evidence that public funds have been misappropriated,
the Department will consider prosecution. If you are bankrupt or insolvent you
may be removed from duties where the handling of public funds is involved.
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by luluj » Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:55 pm
Standatd Civil Service Standards of Behaviour. If you have to provide a statement keep it vague
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by Michael Peoples » Tue Apr 25, 2017 8:28 am
I am sure most civil servants have never read the handbook and I doubt if many have ever informed their personnel officer of their IVAs. I am sure you will be fine but perhaps a call to the union rep maybe worthwhile to just keep things right.
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by Johng79 » Wed Apr 26, 2017 7:43 am
Well got reply back from personnel. If i take iva they want "broad details of the reasons why i have become insolvent". That would suggest be vague?
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by kallis3 » Wed Apr 26, 2017 7:51 am
I would suggest you say that you took on too much credit. Doesn't matter what you spent it on - that's your business, not theirs.
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by Michael Peoples » Wed Apr 26, 2017 8:23 am
Standard answers would be over consolidation, property or vehicle repairs, relationship breakdown, children and maternity cover. Any of these answers should be sufficient or a mixture of whichever are most relevant.
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by Johng79 » Wed Apr 26, 2017 8:27 am
Cheers Michael,

Just emailed shots etc to Andy. I will also email him a wee blurb that obviously you guys can expand on.

Hope to hear from you soon

John
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by Johng79 » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:33 pm
Thanks michael. Andy must be off today as iv not reached him. Im popping statements, and copy of payslips/passport in post which should be there in morning.
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by Michael Peoples » Wed Apr 26, 2017 2:34 pm
Nice one John. I think Andy is about but been up to his neck all day.
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by luluj » Wed Apr 26, 2017 2:51 pm
Broad is vague - it will be fine I am sure.
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by Johng79 » Wed Apr 26, 2017 3:17 pm
thanks everyone. This forum is superb in getting answers to queries, especially for us newbies just starting out on the path to fresh start.
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