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Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 8:14 pm
by mitsu9
due to the current amount of insolvencies does anyone think that iva or bankruptcy will be made harder to get or even punishments involved like prison .im still undecided what to do but am worried longer i leave it the harder it might be to get.thanks
Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 8:18 pm
by MelanieGiles
Absolutely not. Why should people be punished for having debts that they cannot afford to pay. Over 80% of financial difficulties arise as a result of unforseen personal circumtances such as redundancy, illness or marital break up.
I think that it should be made more difficult to get the credit in the first place, if we are to reduce insolvencies - but I actually do not see that happening, and the more banks lend the more they have to be prepared to write off.
Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 8:19 pm
by Viki.W
No prison and maybe it will get easier with the introduction of the SIVAs next year. Bankruptcy process may get harder though. I'm sure the experts will know more.
Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 8:21 pm
by freelili
debtors prison was abolished a long time ago. so dont worry, get as much information as possible to enable you to make the right choice in your circumstances. There are a few professional experts on this site who would be happy to discuss options with you.
Most of us struggle on for a while before we stop or are stopped and have to look for help. Its not a very nice place to be, there are people who will understand that and be more than willing to advise you.
Good luck and take care now.
Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 8:30 pm
by Adam Davies
Hi
There are "won't" pays and "can't" pays.
We are all in the can't pay catagory and banks etc need to rely on the integrity of IPs to put forward genuine cases without too much questioning.
Recent figures suggest that banks are still making the IVA route difficult and many people are opting for bankruptcy.
I am sure there will be a swing back to IVAs in the near future.
Regards
Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 10:20 pm
by MelanieGiles
Ever the optimist Andy!!!
Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 10:53 am
by rochelle123
whats a SIVA?
Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 10:56 am
by kallis3
It will be a more simplified version of an IVA. Instead of 75% of your creditors having to accept for it to be accepted, it will only be 50%. So and IVA will be easier to get.
Not sure when it will be coming in, as it has been talked about for a long time.
Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 10:57 am
by Lisa2009
I believe also that there will be no annual reviews with a SIVA.
Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 11:02 am
by kallis3
Even better!
Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 12:09 pm
by plasticdaft
I dont think prison is an option but I do strongly believe that it will become much harder for anyone regardless of history to get credit in the future!!
I dont think thats a bad thing though.
Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 12:12 pm
by kallis3
No, debtors prison went out of the window years ago! I think they'd have a problem with overcrowding if not![:D]
Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 12:39 pm
by David Mond
The SIVA is going to be called the Fast Track Individual Voluntary Arrangement and hopefully will be available from April 2009. Simple majority and crediors are given no options either accept or decline. No modifications. No Annual Reports and wilkl be available to debtor's with debts upto £75,000.
IVA's with the release of latest insolvency statistics will rise again.
Take appropriate advice and seek views of one or two IP's. Visit
www.iva.com and see reviews on many practitioners.
Don't worry you won't be thrown into jail!
Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 2:03 pm
by go_4_broke
There is a whole raft of new legislation in the pipeline designed to make debt relief simpler and cheaper.
So apart from the revised IVA's mentioned above by David we will also have revised AO's, DRO's ERO's and regulated DMPS.
So although there will be more options for people, the choice of which to go for will actually be more complex.
Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 5:57 pm
by Jan01
As someone who occasionally works in prisons they are already over crowed now the thought of of how many extra people there would be if debtors were imprisoned I shudder to think.
I think you would only be imprisoned for debt if you had committed a serous crime--Thank goodness
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