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Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 9:46 pm
by bonzo
we were told that our IVA was to last for no longer than 18 months. After 4years we were told that the IVA had been terminated the letter reads..
"I write to advise that pursuant to rule 5.34 of the insolvency act 1986, the supervisor must terminate the voluntary arrangement.
Accordingly I hereby issue this notice of termination of the above-mentioned voluntary arrangement by reason of the effluxion of time. Furthermore, I confirm that I will now vacate office and cease to act as supervisor of such arrangement."
Can anybody tell us what this means because we kept up our payments for 18 months.
Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 9:51 pm
by kallis3
Hi,
An IVA usually lasts for 5 years. Can you tell us exactly what your proposal said and why it was only supposed to be for 18 months?
Were you supposed to remortgage to finish the IVA?
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 10:19 am
by bonzo
Hi kallis3, yes we were, the proposal said we intend to remortgage after 12 months.
we contacted our IP to ask him what the figure would be that we would have to remortgage for he did not know what the final figure was. We contacted him and Debt matters several times and could not get any answer. In the meantime we carried on with our monthly contributions.
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 10:28 am
by stoneyB
Just to be clear , have you continued payments for the 4 years?
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 10:29 am
by kallis3
I do think you need to contact them as a matter of urgency. If you have continued to make payments, you need to know what has happened to them. Have you ever had any annual reports to tell you if any payments have been distributed to creditors?
You can contact your IP direct via this link:
http://www.insolvency-service.co.uk/newipsearch.htm
Send him/her an email and let us know what happens.
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 10:31 am
by stoneyB
As an aside why are people using such words as "effluxion" these days? Whatever happened to the Plain English campaign?
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 10:43 am
by kallis3
Know what you mean!
In case anyone wonders what it means:
'The normal expiration of a lease due to the passage of time, rather than due to a specific event that might cause the lease to end, such as destruction of the building.'
Are we all clear on that?[:D]
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:10 am
by bonzo
We continued to pay the contributions for a further 5 months after the 18 months but we still had not heard anything from DM. We asked the only company that would offer us a remortgage at the time to try and get in touch with DM and they said that DMatters were about to go bankrupt. we had also read this in the daily post a local paper. When we heard this we thought it would be wise not to send them anymore payments, because we were not sure where our payments would be going. By this time we had made 5 more payments than the 18 months worth of payments we were required to make.So 23 payments in all. We did not hear anything more from DM until April 2009 which was 25 months later. That is when we received this letter about "the effluxion of time" the next day we received a cheque for £1250 for the IP saying that he had no power to use this money because the IVA proposal said our IVA was to last a maximum of 18 months. The £1250 was the 5 extra payments we had made, which had been sitting in their bank for 25 months .
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:14 am
by kallis3
Debt matters do still have an active website, and even if they had gone bankrupt, their business would have gone to another company. I am sure the IP will still be operating, so have a look at the link that I posted and see if you can contact him/her direct via email.
This does need sorting out.
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:17 am
by bonzo
Hi Kaliis3,
Thank you we will let you know if we here anything.
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:23 am
by bonzo
Hi Kallis3,
Thank you we will let you know if we hear anything.
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 1:54 pm
by Adam Davies
Hi
An interesting case.
You need to find out from your IP if your IVA has failed or has been concluded.
You may find yourself back to square one.
Regards
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 6:22 pm
by bonzo
Hi Andy,
Yes thanks we will try to find out. We have tried to phone DM it just rings a few times and goes dead and also the website looks broken (words in wrong position) looks like its not maintained we will keep you posted.
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 7:36 pm
by MelanieGiles
The company is still trading, and continues to propose a few IVAs, but the majority of its IVA book was sold last year to Grant Thornton and Payplan, so you should check whether your case was transferred to either firm.
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 7:37 pm
by kallis3
Send your IP an email via the link I posted. They should be able to tell you what is happening.