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Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 1:48 am
by jeff.s
Hello, I currently have an IVA that i've just completed 3yrs this month. I have an outstanding figure of £10,258 to date. A very close friend of mine want to help me settle this debt and I was thinking of making an offer of say £6000 as ful, and final settlement. My question is should I make a few more payments to reduced this outstanding figure so that my offer may have a better chance of getting accepted or just go ahead and contact my IP with this proposal?

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 8:47 am
by plasticdaft
Contact your Ip and see what they say,all they can do is put it to your creditors. What are you paying a month into the iva? What was your original return going to be(how much per pound of debt were you paying?)

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 9:23 am
by kallis3
I agree with Plasticdaft.

Usually if you offer a full and final the creditors expect back as close to the original dividend as possible. If it is to be less, I think you usually had to have a good reason such as redundancy or illness.

You must make it known as well that this money is only available for a full and final.

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 9:57 am
by jeff.s
Hi Plasticdaft & Jan, thanks for the advice, having checked my proposal, My original return would be £26,760.00 with a monthly payment of £446.00. My proposal is showing an 18% dividened to my creditors. Total unsecured debt amount of £96,765 was the figure when my IVA started.Can't seem to see how much per pound of debt i'm paying?.

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 10:25 am
by kallis3
My maths is rubbish, but on your figures that seems to be more than 18%.

Hopefully someone whose maths is better than mine can reply, but I suggest that you speak to your IP anyway to see what they thing about the settlement figure.

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 10:28 am
by jeff.s
Thanks Jan, I will contact my IP to get there advice, just reading through the proposal again to see if I can find this figure!

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 10:31 am
by kallis3
As I say, I am useless on maths and me and hubby have been arguing over your figures![:D]

Hopefully one of the professionals will be on later to assist.

I could be totally wrong!

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 10:39 am
by jeff.s
Ok Jan, stop the arguing, lets have some order there ok, I'm sure one of the professionals will respond later or another member of the Forum will know, cheers
Jeff

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:32 am
by ivas4us
I think the figures are not to far away as you have to take the nomination fees and supervisor fees off the total amount paid the 18% would be £17,417 the payments would be £446 x 60 = £26,760 so fees would be £9343 so not too far off the mark.

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:41 am
by jeff.s
Thats very interesting so my IP could also be affected by my offer? I remember a few years back of being asked by my IP if I wanted to re-finance my mortgage to pay off my IVA early when I was going through my second year financial review! Very interesting! thanks Jeff

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:47 am
by ivas4us
I would think that some of the fees will be cut in a f&f so the £6,000 might not be to far away although it is at the low end of the scale. Your IP fees do seem a little on the high side as well but that may be because of the length of time your IVA has been running. I would sound your IP out and see what they say and if it looks like a no at present you could ask when he thinks that sort of figure would be right to put forward. It's worth a try in my opinion but I am no expert. But I think at the very least there is hope of a f&f to settle early at some point. Good luck.

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:49 am
by kallis3
Thanks Paul - I am useless with figures, and even though that was how we had worked things out, my head couldn't get round it - and no, I'm not blonde!

I hope you get it sorted out Jeff.

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:57 am
by ivas4us
I presume the IVA would have been non protocol compliant and from memory fees were probably higher in those days.

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 12:21 pm
by kallis3
You are probably right Paul. The protocol compliant ones didn't come in until February 2008.

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 12:24 pm
by ivas4us
The fees were not so consistent prior to this. Am I right in my thinking?