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Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 5:22 pm
by Waltons
Warning - Long Post!

Hi, i'm hoping that someone will be able to answer a few questions for me. Our situation is slightly complicated as at present, we live in Guernsey in the Channel Islands, but are going back to the UK at the end of April. We have four children aged 7, 8, 11, 12.

Our unsecured debts total over £100k, our secured debts i.e. mortgage plus secured loan, total £420,000. Yuk, just typing that made me feel quite ill..

My husband is a director of a firm here but not as in a Companies House type of director, just a director of a limited company. He nets £6220 per month whilst I, at present anyway, net just over £1000 per month. (This will change back in the UK as he'll revert to 40% tax plus travelling expenses into London (£4000 a year). I know this is a hell of a lot of money and we're embarrassed as hell but my husband's divorce 13 years ago, basically crippled us and we've spiralled into this quagmire, and have absolutely no clue how to deal with it properly.

Our rent here in Guernsey is a whopping £2,300 per month (we have no choice as there are many restrictions on non-locals renting or buying here), and the rent we get from our tenants in the UK at the moment doesn't cover all our mortgage, so we also have to add another £450 on top of our rent - if that makes any sense?

So in a nutshell our debts are this:

Two overdrafts at Barclays which total £10,000
Three loans with Barclays - £1400 per month
One loan with Tesco - £340 per month
Egg Credit Card - up to its £15k limit (monthly payment £451pm)
Capital One CC - up to its £14k limit (monthly payment £400pm)
Mint - approx £4k (monthly payment £100pm)
Barclaycard - approx £9k (monthly payment £200pm)

Then our rent, mortgage, first plus loan (£876pm), cost of living here which is incredibly high, etc. We're in a right mess.

Anyway, my husband recently phoned up the National Debtline and talked to a very helpful person about how an IVA would work for us. Believe it or not the chap said he'd seen worse(!) and that before we go down the IVA road, maybe we should try and sort it ourselves.

So hubby has been putting together income and expenditure sheets, monthly payments, etc, etc, and has offered 25% of what we currently pay per month, for six month period, until we're back home and can look at things again. We sent the letters off on Monday.

Egg have been amenable, Mint not amenable, nor Tesco. Haven't heard yet from the other creditors but it's really disappointing so far to say the least.

The trouble is, even though we are robbing one overdraft to pay the other then to pay debts, we haven't defaulted on anything. Is this something that the creditors would hold against us? Also, even though creditors can say no to IVA's, surely it's preferable to bankruptcy? At least they'd get something back instead of hardly anything?

Also, if bankruptcy ends up being the only way out for us - would this affect my husband's position??

So many questions, so much info, sorry!

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 5:35 pm
by Lisa2009
Hi and welcome to the forum.

First off, try not to worry there will be a sollution for you.

I would recommend you speak to a couple of insolvency practitioners to be sure you are comfortable with advice given.
Take a look at www.iva.com for a list of IVA providers and reviews on each and give a couple a call.
I would also highly recommend the IP's that post on this forum.

Dont feel embarassed, you are not the first and certainly wont be the last. The main thing is that you are now asking for help.

Good luck xxx

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 8:25 pm
by MelanieGiles
Hi there and welcome to the forum

I actually have a couple of clients who live and work on Guernsey, and I fully understand the high rental costs if you are a non-Guernsey born family.

I would suggest that you take professional advice directly from an IP at the earliest convenience. Debt helplines, to be fair, often deliever very good advice about run of the mill cases, but given the complexities of a case like yours I would seek more specialist advice.

Notwithstanding that you do not return to the UK until April, the ball can start rolling now and solutions can be discussed which can be then implemented upon your return to the mainland.

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:19 pm
by Adam Davies
Hi
I think that you will struggle to deal with this yourself and really need the help of a professional asap.
Speak with several experts/companies and explore all options before deciding on the correct route
Regards

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 8:44 am
by newbeginings
I would suggest speaking with 2 or 3 companies to get an idea of what you can do and also
to get a feel of a company you will feel
comfortable with. Also read the reviews on
iva.com.

Ps make sure one of the 3 companies you call is melanie giles.

Good luck!

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 9:21 am
by Simbel
Hi Waltons welcome to the forum.

My husband and I had unsecured debts of approximately £130K and we were told the same thing, Don't worry there is a solution for you.

The experts on this forum are brilliant, so take their advice and you won't go wrong. Keep posting. x [:)]

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:09 am
by size5
If you find that some of your creditors are not amenable to your proposals, and if you want to hang fire on an IVA unless and until you get back to the mainland and know exactly what your budget wll be, which in all honesty is not a bad idea, then you may wish to look at a DMP for a temporary period until things are clearer. Of course, it would be better for you if all your creditors play ball, freeze interest etc without having to involve a 3rd party, but as you are finding out now, that is unlikely.

I would echo my fellow posters sentiments and encourage you to speak to 2 or 3 professionals before you make your next move. Rest assured, however, that there WILL be an answer and a way forward, it just depends what it is.

Regards.

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:19 am
by lukeofyorkshire
Hi and welcome. You've taken the hardest step which is recognising you have a problem and asking for help, well done.

Speak to an IP as soon as possible and once the ball is rolling you will not believe how much better you will feel.

Everyone on here has been there or as a professional has dealt with people who have so you'll find lots of understanding, no judgements and lots of warm helpful advice.

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 3:26 pm
by Waltons
Thank you so much for the replies. To be able to have a bit of empathy from others who have been or are going through this, makes a very stressful situation, that little bit easier.

I'm going to get my husband to have a look at all the replies posted and see where he wants to go from here, but I think first and foremost, talking to a professional seems to the best way forward, as scary as it is.

Many thanks:-)

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 8:50 pm
by Waltons
We've decided to contact Melanie to start off with. I went to her website and sent a contact thing off to her - will she call us or do we call her?

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 8:55 pm
by kallis3
If you have sent a contact to Melanie, then they should contact you. I am sure that she will be on later to advise.

It is an excellent company you have chosen.

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 9:06 pm
by Waltons
Phew, I'm so completely knackered with all this. Don't think I've ever been as stressed in my life and that's saying something having had my husband's nasty divorce to contend with a few years back and having four children close in age to look after!

Thanks Jan. Will wait to hear from Melanie then.

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 9:07 pm
by rachel75
Waltons I sent a contact form to Melanie's website today and a lovely lady called Tina called me back within 6 hours.

Good luck. xx

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 9:19 pm
by kallis3
If you have sent a contact to Melanie, then they should contact you. I am sure that she will be on later to advise.

It is an excellent company you have chosen.

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:11 pm
by MelanieGiles
Hi there I have picked up Walton's enquiry and will be making contact myself tomorrow morning.

I am sure that we will be able to find the right solution, and look forward to speaking to you both over the weekend.