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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:42 am
by janderson
Hi All

I cut and pasted this from a relatives post on facebook and thought it would send a message of caution to all us IVAers out there.

Regards



WARNING>>> WARNING>>> WARNING >>>WARNING received a call from a 'representative' of BT, informing me that he was disconnecting me because of an unpaid bill.. He demanded payment immediately of £31.00 or it would be £ 118.00 to re-connect at a later date. The guy wasn't even fazed when I told him I was with Virgin Media, allegedly VM have to pay BT a percentage for line rental! I asked the guy's na...me - he gave me the very 'English' John Peacock with a very 'African' accent - & phone number - 0800 0800 152. Obviously the fellow realized I didn't believe his story, so offered to demonstrate that he was from BT. I asked how & he told me to hang up & try phoning someone - he would dis-connect my phone to prevent this. AND HE DID !! My phone was dead - no engaged tone, nothing - until he phoned ...me again. Very pleased with himself, he asked if that was enough proof that he was with BT. I asked how the payment was to be made & he said credit card, there & then. I said that I didn't know how he'd done it, but I had absolutely no intention of paying him, I didn't believe his name or that he worked for BT. He hung up. I dialed 1471 - number withheld I phoned his fictitious 0800 number - not recognized. So I phoned the police to let them know. I wasn't the first! It's only just started apparently, but it is escalating. Their advice was to let as many people as possible know of this scam. The fact that the phone does go off would probably convince some people it's real, so please make as many friends & family aware of this. How is it done? This is good but not that clever. He gave the wrong number - it should have been 0800 800 152 which takes you through to BT Business. The cutting off of the line is very simple, he stays on the line with the mute button on and you can't dial out - but he can hear you trying. (This is because the person who initiates a call is the one to terminate it). When you stop trying he cuts off and immediately calls back. You could almost be convinced! The sad thing is that it is so simple that it will certainly fool many. By the way this is not about getting the cash as this would not get past merchant services - it is all about getting the credit card details which include the security number, so that it can be used for far larger purchases >>> COPY AND PASTE 2 SPREAD THE WORD......copied from someone else.

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:50 am
by kallis3
Not sure if this is genuine or not now - it has been doing the rounds for a while.

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:00 am
by plasticdaft
It has been doing the rounds for an age now!!!!

Paul

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:26 am
by kallis3
A couple of good sites to check to see if these are genuine is Hoax Slayer or Snopes.

The vast majorithy are hoaxes.

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:34 am
by lem
Yeah I heard about this at least a couple of years ago, some people are really taken in by these things

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:39 am
by kallis3
I've just checked on Hoax Slayer and I will apologise - this one is genuine.

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:44 am
by PELDER
There is a useful reverse phone number look-up at 'whocallsme.com' which is a user supplied database of phone numbers of telemarketers, non-profit organizations, charities, political surveyors, SCAM artists, and other companies that don't leave messages, disconnect once you answer, and simply interrupt your day. I find this website quite useful after receiving suspect calls!

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:48 am
by kallis3
That is a good site - I use it all the time. Trouble is, if you are on the phone to whoever, it's not always possible to check that.

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:30 pm
by Shining
I never receive any calls really only from two people and I have my home phone set to different tones for them, my Mum and hubby's Mum!

I ususally quote them the TPS and they're off like a flash. x

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 2:17 pm
by kallis3
Most of these sites are based abroad and I don't think they care too much about TPS!!

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 2:19 pm
by Shining
They can't have my number then as I don't get any. x

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 2:39 pm
by kallis3
We've had the Microsoft one and the one trying to flog me insurance for my Sky box and the latter was left in no doubt as to my opinion of his firm!!!!!

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 2:47 pm
by animaleyes76
My friend got the Microsoft one, wasted their time for ages pretending he knew nothing about computers then threw in a "Does this not apply if i'm using Linux Mint?"

Apparently the guy on the other end got WELL upset.. Good work :)

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 2:59 pm
by kallis3
Hubby just told them then he didn't have a computer and even then the bloke on the other end kept going on and on until in the end he got quite marked and put the phone down.

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:17 pm
by plasticdaft
I am afraid I owe the swear box about £18-76 after getting the microsoft support call today. I wont be hearing from them again!!

Paul