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Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 4:08 pm
by LolaLola
Hello.
Myself and my partner are in an IVA. We have just gone past our fourth year anniversary and are very much looking forward to next year and the completion certificate being issued.
My query is, that, we have always been in the lucky circumstance that our payments have gone up over the years.
My husband's original IVA monthly payment was £432 and now he pays £641. The latest I&E review now says he should pay £822.
My original payment was agreed at £242, my payment now is £377 and the review says I should now pay £483.
We have just received our fourth year credit report.
My husband's states that they have received and agreed creditors claims for £24,831. Already they have received contributions from him of £23,698. By the time the IVA is over, he will have added another £9,884 to the total paid back.
Mine states I have paid contributions of £13,613 and I have agreed creditors claims of £11,113. In another year, I will have paid an extra £5796.
We didn't go through a debt management company but straight through an IP.
So I suppose my question is that we seem to be paying back more than we originally agreed, a lot more but our IVA isn't coming to an end any quicker. Why is this and is this correct in your experience?
Oh, and now I have just found out I am pregnant with our third child and have asked for the next increase in contributions to be delayed for six months so that we can buy everything for the baby (as we got rid of all of our stuff over the years). Do you think they will agree to this?
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 4:35 pm
by Foggy
Congratulations on the baby.
The increases you describe ( assuming like increases in your disposable income over the years) is correct and normal.
We are not limited to paying back the initially agreed dividend, but as much as possible during the IVA, with it's terms. We always owe the TOTAL original debt and anything written off doesn't take effect until the end.
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 4:42 pm
by Shining
Hello and welcome to the forum. Congratulations from myself too.
I agree with Foggy's post, the total outstanding debt plus IP fees plus statutory interest is owed until the end. However, if you managed to pay all this the IVA would then conclude early.
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 4:58 pm
by luluj
As others are saying you are liable for the full amount of debt for the duration of your IVA and should you be in the position to pay additional monies in over the term this will go towards that outstanding full debt figure
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 5:01 pm
by LolaLola
I fully agree that we should be paying back all of the original debt - and that is my point.
We are paying back the original debt plus around £8k more on my husband and £7k on mine.
It just seems a lot.
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 5:04 pm
by LolaLola
Thanks Lesley and Foggy for your opinions/ advice. Sometimes it's difficult to see when you're so close to something.
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 5:04 pm
by Niobe
Have you taken into account the fees that you will have paid on the figure?
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 5:09 pm
by Foggy
The extrs would be the fees -- agreed with the creditors at the start -- these days they are around 15% of the realisation, plus nominees fees, say £1000 - £1500. You need to check your paperwork to see what it says about statutory interest. But if you hit TOTAL original debts, plus fees and stat interest, if applicable, then the IVA payments will cease.
The Fees and possible sta, interest might seem a lot, but I would hazard that they are a lot less than the interest you would have been paying on the debts over the term had you not been in an IVA.
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 7:16 pm
by Broke of London
Hi,
It may be worthwhile asking your IP if you are predicted to return 100p/£ during the next year as you may be able to complete early.
Congrats on nearing completion and the baby x
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 7:45 pm
by luluj
I agree with BOL - if the extra you have paid in means to you have reached the 100% and IP fees, then your IVA may be able to concluded earlier than planned - let us know how you get on with your IP.
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:25 pm
by KM1512
Congrats on the news of the baby and I know everything goes well for you.
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 12:46 pm
by LolaLola
Hello everyone!
Well, I have had some really good news from our IP. The Supervisor and our creditors have agreed that the increase will now only apply to my husband's payment.
I only have to pay another three payments and I will have paid back 100p in the £, so will finish my IVA 9 months early - which is brilliant news.
Even better news, the clauses in our IVA have been checked and agreed so that when my payments stop in Sept/October, my disposable income will not be taken into account with regards to my husband's payments.
So his payments will continue at the rate we have agreed until May next year and he will be clear too.
It's been a long slog but the best decision we have ever made. We are in complete control of our finances now and have had a very rude awakening to our former attitude to money.
Many thanks for all of your opinions and help!
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 2:04 pm
by Michael Peoples
Sounds like a fair and sensible decision to me and well done all around. You can plan better for the new arrival now. You can name your IP firm if you like as it sounds like they have done an excellent job and quite often the good jobs do not get mentioned.
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:37 pm
by LolaLola
Hello everyone.
Even more good news! My husband's IVA will conclude two months early due to his level of contributions too. Both will have paid back 100p in the £, so we are very happy that we've paid our original debt back plus all of the related fees.
We used a private Chartered Accountant, with an insolvency specialist, as we were worried about some reports about debt agencies. We couldn't have been more happy with our choice.
We didn't have to pay upfront fees or extortionate rates and the proposal seems to be one of the fairest ones around. Would thoroughly recommend people checking out all options rather than just settling for a company with a glossy advert.
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:41 pm
by Foggy
Great news all round. I can only echo your comments regarding finding the correct firm by checking out a selection before committing.