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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:08 pm
by vince666
Apparently GT are looking at making another acquisition - they must feel they don't have a big enough backlog [:D]
Below is the full text from Tenon's website:
Potential disposal of Individual Voluntary Arrangements ("IVA") business
The Company announces that it is in exclusive discussions with Grant Thornton UK LLP to dispose of the IVA business of RSM Tenon Recovery.
The IVA business is a stand-alone activity based in Manchester that employs approximately 60 members of staff. For the year ended 30 June 2012 the business generated revenues of approximately £5.0 million. The proposed sale does not include the Company's debt management business or any other part of RSM Tenon Recovery.
No assurance can be given that a sale will be concluded and a further announcement will be made in due course.
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:33 pm
by Adam Davies
Hi
It looks like GT are keen to enlarge their IVA book again.
Will just two IPs oversee the entire IVA book ? it must run into many thousands
Regards
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:40 pm
by Niobe
Gosh - that sounds scary! Hopefully they can cope with this as well.
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:47 pm
by Foggy
I really hope this doesn't happen. GT are lurching from one crisis to another at the moment and apparently can't cope as it is !
Each time they start to get back on track another spanner looms !!!
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 8:55 pm
by kazzafunk
That would worry me for others with both GT and RSM Tenon.
I have respect for GT but there is always a worry that customer service will suffer if a company takes on more clients without sufficient staff increases.
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:06 pm
by Shining
I only hope the GT an RSM Tenon clients aren't affected too much.
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:09 pm
by marksam1
If this takes place, i only hope i get the same sevice as i do with tenon
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:27 pm
by MelanieGiles
It doesn't matter how many cases an IP agrees to take on, so long as they have the infrastructure to cope with administering all of them. It is interesting, however, to see yet another major player exiting the IVA market.
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:58 am
by MerlinL14
If more people who were in dire striates with their finances got to visit here first then you would have more 'customers' than any of them Mel.
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:16 am
by Michael Peoples
I think Melanie's point is a very important one. The squeeze on fees is pushing firms out of the personal insolvency market and there is a danger that choice will be eroded. If this continues the independent professional sector will vanish and all that will be left will be bank funded firms and 'charities'.
Given that these firms have very few IPs between them I would question their ability to properly advise and maintain IVAs for the population so there is a significant danger that more and more people will end up in long term unsuitable DMPs and IVAs and bankruptcies will decline.
Perhaps that is the plan.
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 11:14 am
by Adam Davies
Hi
Very good points
The income from IVAs has been squeezed so much that with all the regulation and annual reviews etc it can't be cost effective in some cases.
Most DMPs command the same monthly charge as IVAs yet have much less administration and regulation so it is no wonder that companies are selling on their IVA books and retaining their very profitable DMP portfolios
Regards
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 11:26 am
by Tina Shortland
It will be interesting to see overtime, if it goes through, what impact this will have on clients as the difficult period following handover last time for GT did seem to go on for a while. I do believe though some of that was down to the administrative difficulties that were handed over to them which they had to rectify. Hopefully RSM Tenon's portfolio is of the same quality as any good company should have and it will be a breeze....watch this space!
Merlin - I like your comment - if only we could let everyone know to come on here first...I think I'd need my sleeping bag at my desk though!!!
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 2:09 pm
by MerlinL14
I think apologies to McC D and a few other IVA companies is in order from me as they also show a huge degree of adult, joined up decisions for their customers.
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 2:13 pm
by RRones
Hope this does affected current GT IVA cases. Mine has being a ok process so far
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 2:42 pm
by geoffr
This worries me as GT is getting busier by the minute