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Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:37 pm
by mitch2311
Spoke to payplan about offering a f+f offer on mine and my wifes iva. They told us the total was £11, 000. My uncle said he wants to give us money and pay off the iva. When I rang payplan today they said the total didnt include fees etc and it would total closer to £30, 000 what we owe!!

Yeah thanks a bunch payplan!

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:39 pm
by Skippy
Is the £11k the amount your wife will be repaying if the IVA runs its course or the amount she actually owes?

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:45 pm
by UpToMyNeckInIt
Hi Mitch,

Are you confusing your original proposed minimum dividend, with 'what you owe'? (which is ALWAYS 100p in the £ + your IP's fees - usually 11% for 'additional realisations'. This is over and above your agreed min. dividend).

Without knowing your full circumstances, it is always difficult to advise. But, I guess there is no harm in proposing £11k (or whatever takes you to your original minimum agreed dividend, deducting payments to date), provided that is seen as the best possible offer.

If the creditors don't accept, you just carry on with the IVA as normal.

Good luck.

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:52 pm
by Sensible77
Doesn't your uncle want to give you £25,000?
http://www.iva.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?wh ... 987#510476

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 1:44 pm
by Foggy
not if it's going down the drain, so to speak, Sensible .....

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 1:54 pm
by Foggy
Mitch -- they can't add fees on to the payments due under the terms of the IVA, which are what you base a F&F on, fees are included in that agreed dividend.

The bottom line is that it is your right to make a F&F of whatever you feel reasonable and affordable, based on monthly payment x number of payments left.

They will only expect over and above this if your uncle gave you the full amount he originally intended to --- but, as he is now only offering the £11k for a f&f, that is what you offer.

It is then up to the creditors to decide if they want the full agreed dividend in a lump sum now, or wait a few years and get it in dribs and drabs.

You have to bear in mind Payplans stance on this, being an organisation largely funded by the creditors, they will try to get as much as possible back ( not forgetting their percentage of course). (Thinks: am I getting cynical?)

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 2:43 pm
by mitch2311
Yes my uncle is giving us £25k. We owed £28, 000 but with the iva £12, 000. To be honest I know nothing about ivas we went into this one unawere of anything. My uncle has now said he will invest our £25, 000 in premium bonds then in 4 years time when iva is finished we will have a nice fresh start with £25k in savings. Im not wasting £25k paying iva off and for it to get tipped down the drain. We will continue to make our contribution of £200 a month for 4 years then as I say have a nice nest egg

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 2:44 pm
by mitch2311
font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">quote:<hr height="1" noshade>Originally posted by Foggy

not if it's going down the drain, so to speak, Sensible .....
Exactly. I will keep that £25k til after iva finishes [;)]

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 3:19 pm
by UpToMyNeckInIt
...very sensible decision Mitch. That should give you a nice start.

Good luck to you.

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 3:54 pm
by mitch2311
Thank you

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 9:47 pm
by abbiesmum2003
Wow! what a generous uncle! from what ive read i think its a sensible idea to carry on monthly iva and let the 25k be there for you at the end plus any winning bonds you get in that time!!!

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 10:12 pm
by Hyperdrive
Don`t understand why the figure went from 11k to 30k ?

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 10:15 pm
by Foggy
I think Mitch has a projected £11k in payments, but asked his IP what he owed --- which, of course, is the full original debt plus fees (original debt around £28k).

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 10:30 pm
by Hyperdrive
And so an F&F offer of 11k has not been dismissed?

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 10:33 pm
by Foggy
No, but I think Mitch has decided not to go with the offer.