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Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 12:09 pm
by abbiesmum2003
Now i know this is a little premature but Ive just had a call from the team that deals with Mels clients reviews.
He said I will need to provide evidence and explanation why things such as housekeeping are what they are as may need to knock down things at review time.
Now forgive me but we went through this with Mel on several occasions and kept note of spending. We both commute a fair distance for work/school and petrol only getting more expensive. We are a family of 5...i am currently feeding baby myself but by review she will be eating/on formula so additional expense plus nappys etc. We shop in Lidl/Aldi as it is and always take a list, go without the children to avoid 'extras' and use stuff up before purchasing more.
I was relaxing about living in the budget as it felt realistic...its end of the month nearly and getting tight but not dreadful. From October we will have extortionate childcare fees when i return to work which i am dreading. He said about knocking things down if over sllowances but when we did proposal our expenses where reasonable and real.
im now terrified that this team who dont know us will try and squeeze every penny from us and we will struggle. How does it work? Am i back to the worrying stage and fear of the unknown?? Can they insist on large reductions of our I&E even though its our actual expenditure? Mel led me to believe that our figures were not above the acceptable limits and creditors didnt fuss or question any of them.
All advice/reassurance welcome!
Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 12:31 pm
by MrsR
Hiya,
As long as you can back everything up with proof, it'll be fine.
The team that you are erferring to work well with Mels' team, and I have always found them to be very helpful throughot our IVA to date.
Any concerns, as always, speak direct with your IP.
Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 12:44 pm
by plasticdaft
Just put down what things cost. Was the change in childcare costs anticipated at the start?
Paul
Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 12:53 pm
by abbiesmum2003
Yes it was written into proposal. We have a variable first year based on maternity pay fluctuating and then my return to work with childcare. Im just freaked out about the petrol/shopping costs with three kiddies and commuting to work. I do shifts and had flexi working but no guarantees i will get it approved again as got a new manager when i go back and they have to agree to it. If doesnt get agreed im gonna struggle with childcare and may end up working more days than i used to which then impacts on petrol etc!!! nightmare!!
Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 1:26 pm
by lem
You shouldn't have to justify expenditure that has already been agreed by your creditors at your next review time and I find it odd that someone from mels team has called you specifically to tell you this, does Mel know?
We have high fuel costs too as we commute a fair distance to work and living rurally are 7 miles from the nearest shop aswell, during our proposal stage we were warned that creditors may question it and to counter that they put a note on our proposal explaining why they were high, our iva went through with no query from creditors on that, and at review time, we weren't asked to look at it or to try and reduce anything.
Of all the companies out there I have found Mel to be very realistic regarding the real cost of living, irrespective of what the guidelines dictate.
Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 1:35 pm
by abbiesmum2003
I believe we are within the 'guidelines' but just a tad worried!
I had emailed team about what i need to file/keep for review as we havent had any contact since iva got accepted spart from a spreadsheet to monitor income for uplift (will not happen!!). I guess it got forwarded to this other team because they deal with mels clients reviews.
I cant cut back on food anymore than we have now. I walk when I can but need car for school run/work and visiting family in nearby towns. Maybe im worrying about nothing. Just when he said about reducing allowances like housekeeping snd petrol i got worried. I havent mentioned it to mel as not really much she can do...reassurance i guess. Oh well...things ate better now than 6 months ago which is the main thing. Next challenge is getting work stabilised for my return.
Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 1:49 pm
by lem
I wouldn't worry about it to be honest, there is no reason why you should be looking at having to rejustify your current expenditure at review time and try to cut things down, your creditors have agreed your current budget and if nothing changes by review time, there is no reason to question why your expenditure is set as it is.
Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 2:21 pm
by plasticdaft
Dont worry about guidelines as they are there to guide only. Allowances over and above can be approved but you may need evidence.
Paul
Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 2:46 pm
by Coffee Break
I was always under the impression that for annual reviews for Mel's company, with any increases in the I&E (ie. gas/electric etc) would of course need evidence (bill statements), plus wage slips (to show any uplifts) and that was all - obviously, correct me if I'm wrong - I've yet to do one! Then the I&E to show these increases would reflect on whether you had to review your monthly payment (increase/decrease), again correct me if I'm wrong!!!
Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 2:54 pm
by lem
I'm with Mel and just going through our second review now, with our first, some of our expenses increased beyond the guidelines, I just sent receipts in that I had kept throughout the year and when I got my review paperwork back it was all agreed with no issues.
Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 3:48 pm
by Shining
Hope Lem's post has reassured you. If in doubt of anything and want clarification talk to Mel she's always very approachable. x
Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 4:25 pm
by MrsR
Ditto Coffee Break and Lem.
Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 4:33 pm
by abbiesmum2003
yes coffeebreak...he said spreadsheet with pays then send payslips quarterly (hubby gets paid weekly so this works out better). Im happy to send payslips etc its just he insinuated that they would review our housekeeping and petrol and make reductions. I heard him tap keyboard so not sure whether he could view our current I&E or not when he said it. Theres nothing fiddled as had to provide supportive evidence and housekeeping already tight and will be due to nappys etc. Luckily saving on formula/bottles at the moment as i can BF baby!! hehe!! Well im gonna forget about it..keep everything filed, send across payslips then see what happens come review time. Im sure theres nothing to worry about as Mel did a thorough case review at thecstart. Just hope gas/electric etc doesnt go up!
Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 5:00 pm
by Tina Shortland
Hi Abbiesmum, sorry to read you have been a little unnerved. Rest assured anyone involved in your IVA, at whatever stage, has the same approach to expenditure as we do and ultimately Melanie is your IP and oversees your IVA. We are all part of the same bigger team. Things can change over a year hence why you may need to justify some expenditure but don't worry about it, if you need it, you need it. I have highlighted your post to Mel so she can respond when she is back on the forum later today.
Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 7:51 pm
by abbiesmum2003
Thanks for your reply Tina. I was just a bit unnerved by the mention of reducing essential allowances but it might be he just said it as a generalisation rather than case specific. I accept things can change and more than happy to review our I&E as the iva goes on. I just got worried if things like petrol get reduced if my hours st work then increase!