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hi, i'm about to lose my job and i may have to resign before i am sacked. if i dont get a job straight away what happens to my payment. i know when we were accepted in the iva plan i cant remember if there was any sort of contingency for this type of thing happening. also if i do have to resign i wont be able to claim unemployment benefit, so i really dont know what to do or where to turn. any information will be gratefully accepted

Do not resign, get sacked at least that way you will have JSA. From what I read yesterday on the BBC site the Jobcentres are tightening up on everything and you could lose any JSA for up to 13 weeks that is over xmas. Force the company to sack you otherwise you get nothing.

AS PJ says, do not leave voluntarily. What is the situation at work causing all this ?

If the worst come to the worse you can usually negotiate a payment break, which will be added on at the end.

Being sacked will not be any better than leaving voluntarily as the DWP will still find you voluntarily unemployed. It may help your future CV to have resigned but regardless speak to your IP and you may get a payment break.

thanks for the replies the situation is that i'm a bus driver and sadly and stupidly there were some passengers without tickets, and an inspector got on my bus. my boss has been good with me as i have known him for years. the problem is that the company i work for is a satelite company for arriva and the work is through the local authority and my boss cant do anything to help me out really, but if i resign i will walk away without anything on my record. but if i'm sacked it will go on my record and the prospect of getting another bus driving job is pretty much zero. so there you have it, i just dont know what to do. thanks

Michael is right ...leaving voluntarily and being sacked may hold the same consequences in DWP rules .....
Although i would see leaving voluntarily as the better option for future employability purposes.

IN the circumstances you might well be right to look at resigning over sacking. However, they might not sack you !

I agree with Foggy that you should at least investigate the internal disciplinary procedure. Speak to the union and perhaps even accept some form of warning but reserve your right to resign before being sacked. Keep your IP up to date and no doubt you will get a payment break as creditors would be sympathetic.
Very best of luck and let us know how you get on.

thanks all for the advice.its only now that you realise how vunerable things are now. i have got till thursday to wait till my hearing so who knows i might just win the lottery before then haha. will post the outcome on thursday
many thanks

hi again not to sure how to phrase this next question but will i have to tell my IP that i resigned or that i have just lost my job and have no redundancy and will i have to provide some sort of proof of what has happened. hope that makes sense

Tell your IP the truth and if you do have to resign he/she will understand why. You can then get a variation on the grounds that 'you lost your job' and are looking for another one.

Dave
Leaving vol and be sacked will both be looked at by dwp.
In terms of hearing did you get union support? And have they followed all of the procedures they should have such as notice of hearing and show you paperwork?
If not there may be a technicality to fall back on

Have you admited that you made a mistake on that day only. That it was a one off and for some reason your mind was elsewhere?
You could ask for leminency as no gain for yourself amd offer to work extra shifts for free as a punishmemt?

Good luck
Cm x

hi all and thank you all for the nice and positive comments through this. so to basically put this to rest, and i know it was my own stupid fault, after a very long discussion with the 1 who must be obeyed(the wife)lol, i resigned as we both agreed a gross mis-conduct dismissal would not have been very good. so as i door has closed i have been very lucky this morning to get an agency job,not the best but as its xmas soon it will serve its purpose, and i am shortly about to go and see an old mate who is looking for a coach driver. so the moral is dont do something very serious for pittance and risk loosing your livelihood. i know i have learned my lesson. thanks again 1 and all for the advice

Good luck moving forward dave. Try not to regret too much. Its done now and in another job them your old job will be a distant memory.

X

Dave. As Claire says regrets are useless and hindsight is wonderful. Best of luck and move forward. Speak to your IP and if you need a break you will get one.