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Can you pay more than the original proposal?

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:24 pm
by Helly78
Hi all

First time posting here.

I started my IVA through Payplan in August 2015 with a debt of £26529.01. My proposal had me paying back in total £33486.85 which includes fees and the equity release at end of 5 years of £7652.52.

However, because I have been promoted and got new better paid jobs my payments are much higher and I estimate that by August 2020 I will have paid over £35k to my IVA.

First question is can they keep taking money once I have paid the original agreement?

Second question is if I have paid this at end of 5th year can they still expect the equity release as well?

Thanks in advance :D

Re: Can you pay more than the original proposal?

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2019 3:10 am
by luluj
Welcome to the forum !

Your iva will end prior to the proposed end date if you have been able to pay 100% of your original debt, plus fees and potential statutory interest.

Equity release will only be taken if you have not reached this.

Your credit file will remain effected until the 6th anniversary of your start date to your iva, however would be amended to say iva completed and creditors would update their credit files to reflect payment made and cleared.

Re: Can you pay more than the original proposal?

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2019 10:22 am
by Foggy
As Luluj says -- the IVA will cease if you hit that figure of repaying the full debt, plus fees aand statutory interest (which is excluded in some cases) earlier than the anticipated end date.

On a debt of around £27k, you would be looking at something like £6k in fees. Adding in statutory interest, you would be looking at an additional £8k or £9k over the 5 years (probably a bit less as it will, in reality, be calculated on the reducing balance). So the magic figure would be around £ 41,000 to see the arrangement end early due to full settlement of the debt.

Re: Can you pay more than the original proposal?

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:47 am
by Lisa Thomas
The answer is explained in my short video here:

https://youtu.be/h4dozq9aGak

Re: Can you pay more than the original proposal?

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:06 am
by Helly78
Thank you all so much for your replies. Much appreciated

Re: Can you pay more than the original proposal?

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:16 pm
by Helly78
So I'm about to enter my 6th year and although I still feel a bit bitter about the amount I pay into the IVA compared to what I read others on here pay and what the adverts suggest payments will be I'm just glad it's nearly over. I am just about to have the yearly review and no doubt my monthly payment will go up and I still live in hope that they will say you've paid enough now :D

Original debt £27k
Paid so far £35,900
Total I expect to pay £49,670

Re: Can you pay more than the original proposal?

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:33 pm
by Foggy
As I roughly worked out -- about £41k should see everything being paid, so the IVA might well end earlier. Maybe Payplan could advise.

Re: Can you pay more than the original proposal?

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 7:22 pm
by Helly78
I've tried that 😁 payplan were really helpful saying if I did pay it in full their accountant would let me know without telling me how much that would need to be 😬

Today though interestingly I have had a letter from Link financial that brought one of my debts to say that no sum remains payable on the account. Does that mean Payolan will stop sending them dividends?

Thanks for all your help

Re: Can you pay more than the original proposal?

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 8:17 pm
by Foggy
Wed Jun 24, 2020 7:22 pmHelly78 wrote:
I've tried that 😁 payplan were really helpful saying if I did pay it in full their accountant would let me know without telling me how much that would need to be 😬

Today though interestingly I have had a letter from Link financial that brought one of my debts to say that no sum remains payable on the account. Does that mean Payolan will stop sending them dividends?

Thanks for all your help
Link could well have written the debt off, so their dividends will be distributed between the other creditors. Creditors handle defaulted accounts in a myriad of weird and wonderful ways-- sometimes simply freezing the actual account and diverting the dividends to a 'slush fund', so account balances cannot be relied upon. So, the debt may not be formally written off, but just suspended, as it were.

Re: Can you pay more than the original proposal?

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:50 am
by Helly78
Thanks Foggy for always replying, I very much appreciate it.
I tried contacting Payplan again to ask how much I had left to pay as all accounts are now showing as closed on my credit files. They said the working out is very complicated and they would only do this if I wanted to make a full and final payment. I said surely the accountants must know because they have said previously the accountants wouldn't take more than the full amount including interest and fees. Its been 4 weeks now and they have stopped corresponding with me.

38k paid now so I plan to bug them with a monthly email asking if I've paid in full. Not sure what else to do.

It feels good having clear closed accounts. Just really looking forward to being able to save, build credit score, pay into my pension, look to move house.

Fingers crossed for Oct/Nov when I will have paid around 41/42k

Roll on end of IVA

Thanks 😊

Re: Can you pay more than the original proposal?

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:06 am
by Foggy
No problem, Helly. I would wait until November and then request the outstanding balance again --- it might be a bit of work for them, but that is what they are being paid for ! If they still refuse complain to their regulatory body.

Re: Can you pay more than the original proposal?

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 12:44 pm
by Helly78
Would you believe it...back with my original contact, she has been off sick and she has asked the accountants for the final amount. I'm now waiting with baited breath for the response 😄

£40,202.95 paid so far hopefully not much left!

Re: Can you pay more than the original proposal?

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 12:46 pm
by Foggy
Oooo-eerrr ..... fingers crossed !

Hope they come back to you soon.

Re: Can you pay more than the original proposal?

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 3:08 pm
by kallis3
Not good to keep you waiting this long.

Re: Can you pay more than the original proposal?

Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 6:46 pm
by Helly78
So I've had an answer today with my final amount on, plus the date that was calculated on so as I've already made another payment looks like I have about 2.3 payments to go! Should be done by December so I'll be starting 2021 with a clean slate 😁