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How to make a complaint about possible missold IVA
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:12 pm
by susan826
I have just found out that two years into my IVA, the main creditor is a secured debt. I went to them over council tax but of course had to add my credit cards to the IVA, which at the time I was on top of. So without that debt it would have been under £5000. I am looking into making a complaint as I took out this IVA because of that main creditor. Any advice greatly appreciated.
Re: <t>How to make a complaint about possible missold IVA</t>
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:15 pm
by MrMole
Have you discussed this with your IVA firm to try and agree on the best way forward?
Re: <t>How to make a complaint about possible missold IVA</t>
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:23 pm
by Foggy
There is very little recourse for a complaint as the insolvency industry is largely self-policed!
You need to make a formal complaint to your IP, which, if unresolved you can escalate to their regulatory body. The RB will, if they find in your favour, issue a slap on the wrist or, as they sometimes do, a financial penalty. Unfortunately they will not directly intervene, nor will you see any of the fine appearing in your account. Have a look here:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... actitioner
Alternatively you could seek advice from a solicitor versed in insolvency law and take your provider to court. However, as you might guess, this could prove rather expensive !
Re: <t>How to make a complaint about possible missold IVA</t>
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:57 pm
by susan826
Thank you, that does sound not hopeful. Yes I have complained to my IVA company but its the third compaby in two years and they say the complaint needs to go back to the orgional company.
Re: <t>How to make a complaint about possible missold IVA</t>
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:06 pm
by susan826
Yes and asked them to email what I should do, they were a bit on the back foot and all over the place. Looks like I have to make a complaint. It is third company in two years, so seems not their problem, although sympathetic and said they will give me any advice I need but no action.
Re: <t>How to make a complaint about possible missold IVA</t>
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:07 pm
by susan826
Thank you for the link. I will try.
Re: <t>How to make a complaint about possible missold IVA</t>
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 3:51 pm
by MrMole
However inconvenient to you, it must be true that the third company to manage your IVA, can't be the ones responsible for any of misselling of if.
Re: <t>How to make a complaint about possible missold IVA</t>
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 4:30 pm
by Foggy
I agree with Mr Mole -- and it could be that they are no longer in existence.
Have you been servicing this secured debt in the meantime ?
Re: <t>How to make a complaint about possible missold IVA</t>
Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:31 am
by lifenoteasy
The new IVA company cannot be held responsible for it being missold BUT the new IP is likely to have the responsibility to make a decision about whether the IVA should continue.
Re: <t>How to make a complaint about possible missold IVA</t>
Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2020 1:41 pm
by susan826
Thank you both
No I have only just found out it was secured, I am going to need to make a plan with them.
I have tracked down the orgional IP and mailed him, though the orgional company is no more, he still is a IP, could that work, do you think?
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2020 3:37 pm
by Foggy
Wed Oct 28, 2020 1:41 pmsusan826 wrote:
Thank you both
No I have only just found out it was secured, I am going to need to make a plan with them.
I have tracked down the orgional IP and mailed him, though the orgional company is no more, he still is a IP, could that work, do you think?
When a complaint of this sort is made it is generally against the IP, as the named supervisor, rather than the Insolvency firm itself, so contacting him direct should suffice --- you can search online for his regulatory body membership details if needed.
https://www.gov.uk/find-an-insolvency-practitioner
Re: <t>How to make a complaint about possible missold IVA</t>
Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:19 pm
by WallE
Did you believe the account was not secured when your IVA was proposed? Was it on there when you signed the proposal? How did the IP know about the debt?
The IP potentially didn't know the account was secured - they would only know if you told them or the creditor told them. It's a bit odd that the creditor didn't tell them upon receiving the proposal however! They can only propose what they've been presented with, surely?
Re: <t>How to make a complaint about possible missold IVA</t>
Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:23 pm
by susan826
I did not know it was secured. I gave the IP a letter that was sent to me from them, it did not state secured and they have not contacted me since, till now. They did not respond to the IP.
I understand the IP should have checked the land registery.
Re: <t>How to make a complaint about possible missold IVA</t>
Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:18 pm
by WallE
Perhaps, but the land registry entry would not state specifically state what account it was, just that there was a charge and when it was placed.
That and until the IVA was approved they would have no reason to look at land reg until they were placing a restriction themselves - as a secure account wouldn't be bound. At the time the IVA was proposed they should have/would have asked you about secure accounts, and if you didn't know it was secured at the time they wouldn't have known any different either.
I agree this is a really unfortunate situation but I'm not sure how much responsibility your original IP has for it, they can only go what you tell them and what they have available.
You signed your proposal to state it was correct, to the best of your knowledge, as did the IP. If neither yourself or your IP knew it was secured how was your IVA mis-sold?
I would agree with earlier comments that the best way forward is to talk with your IP about the viability of your IVA going forward and how it can work around your secured debt.
Re: <t>How to make a complaint about possible missold IVA</t>
Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:35 pm
by susan826
Thank you that helps, I see that. I entered this on a different playing field. I shall have to see what I can do to get out.