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Post by bagpuss » Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:45 am
so where is Kevin...? is this the famous stagg night i heard all about....whats the guy in the white shorts/skirt doing with his other hand ???? LOL x

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Post by mikebdomain » Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:47 am
Kevin is not on this one - yes it is the famous stagg weekend, and before you start angie I am not posting all those pics ... LOL

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Post by tracy.h » Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:49 am
All i can see is a white box with a red cross in it?
 
 

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Post by bagpuss » Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:49 am
already seen them... na na na na na ...LOL x

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Post by mikebdomain » Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:54 am
Sorry tracy some ISP's have a problem with our site - your ISP is obviously one of them

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Post by tracy.h » Mon Oct 15, 2007 11:03 am
Oh well saw the other picture was just interested in putting a face to your posts.
Nice to see who your talking to.

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Post by mike.s » Mon Oct 15, 2007 8:15 pm
Hi guys,
Feeling really, really down in the dumps right now! Sorry! Spoke to Tina on Melanies team tonight, yep that's two people I have actually spoken to now can't beleive it, and it looks like an iva may not be possible as we don't have enough money coming in. Will be burning the midnight oil tonight to sort out our ins and outs and fire it off to Tina b4 we speak again tomorrow. By the way thank you Tina for talking to me I was dreading it (I don't mean dreading talking to you personally, I mean dreading talking to anyone), but I've done it now and it does feel much better being able to talk openly, I just wish it had of been better news although I kinda knew deep down that our situation was worse than I wanted to admit to. We knew, and have for a while now, that we don't have enough money coming in. Jane knew that if she failed her part three test that she would have to go to go back to work and try to fit the training in between. Fingers crossed she will pass next time, anyone thinking of becoming a driving instructor I would seriously advise to look into it very closely, it's not as easy as they make out. I just thought that selling the house and paying a chunk would be a possible end to it, but it looks like I'm wrong. Really wish I had never started my own business now and kidded myself that things would improve, maybe I could find something part time in the evenings to run alongside it, and Jane can find something to fit in with the kids and school etc, just feels like I've walked into another huge wall. But one thing that will come out of this is a huge reality check, don't have enough money coming in, and quite right if we don't have enough coming in why would the creditors accept an f/f, we would be straight back to square one once it was cleared.
If we could find jobs quickly would we be able to put that forward to say that is what we will have coming in from next month. Just really, really worried that if we can't get the iva started now, all of my payments for this month are late, what will happen in the next few days if there is no solution found, I can't just ignore my creditors and not pay my minimum payments. Is BR still an option? didn't talk about that with Tina, don't really want to do Br but if it's a way out now it's worth thinking about. Ohh well maybe tomorrow will bring a better outlook. Thanks for listening
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Post by bagpuss » Mon Oct 15, 2007 8:31 pm
I think a BR would still be an option Mike but i would ring Tina again and go through it with her.

Well done for making those calls...even though it wasnt the news you hoped for it has still be positive as now you are more informed than before.

Best of luck Mike....you ARE doing great, you ARE dealing with it.

As for your creditors....write them all a letter...explain everything...tell them you are activly seeking the best advise possible to come to an conclusion to your finacial difficulties....just ask them for some time.

You cant give them what you havent got...and getting into more debt trying is madness.

I dont know for sure if this would be advisable (maybe someone could clarify) but maybe with the letter a expenditures list...showing what you earn and what you have to pay out...showing what is left...and offering a share of that for each creditor while they give you some time. I really dont see what more they can ask of you.



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Post by Soulgrowth » Mon Oct 15, 2007 9:05 pm
This can really be a real roller coaster of an experience Mike ... up one minute, down the next ... so hang on in there ... my roller coaster has been going on for around eighteen months now :(

May I ask what you were hoping to do once you had sold the house? Rent or downsize?

For me, personally, I wouldn't enter into dialogues with your creditors at this stage ... for me, life is too short. The most important thing is that you are dealing with things and that puts you one step ahead. It will take a good few weeks for your creditors to start catching up with you and I suspect that by the end of this week, having initiated some action, you will be able to start seeing some solutions ... even if it deems BR. If you are selling your house then you will lose it anyway and bankruptcy offers a clean sweep and a fresh start for essentially the cost of having to open a new bank account and not being able to to credit for a good few years (as if you would want to).

You are young and dynamic enough to start afresh Mike ... and as Mike B said to me, all the successful people in life are successful because they have made, and learnt from, mistakes along the way [:)]

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Post by emma_t » Mon Oct 15, 2007 9:05 pm
Hi Mike

I am so sorry for you that you did not get the answers you were hoping for with regards to the iva - I spoke with Tina a while ago so am hoping to go along that route myself., and found her very helpful and honest. Well done for making contact though - i is the first tep.
Following on from what Bagpuss was saying about writing letters to creditors, I have written to all of them to explain my difficulties, but some are asking for a copy of my income and expenditure so they can see for themselves. I am comming up to 2 months behind now (postal strike has not helped me at all with my proposal !!!). I am being hounded by phone calls even though I have explained my situation, I don't know how much more I can take of this to be honest. Some of them are so aggresive and I have had to put mobile down and give it a few mins, as I know they will still be in full flow when I pick up again!!!! They ring at all times and I know they are doing a job but the same creditors will ring everyday and I explain to them i spoke to someone the previous day and they take no notice - it is really begining to affect me and I may have to go to the doctors as am so depressed with it all.
One thing I will say to you is be careful about taking on to much work - up until recently I was working my full time job Mon-Fri and then a weekend job from 12-10pm Sat and 8am-10pm Sun (I have been made redundant from this second job and thats why I can no longer pay all my commitments!!). This amount of work is no good for anyone and I had no time at all to myself and also my main job is in sales so can be driving up to 8 hours a day in total - not a good idea if you are so tired from working all the time!!
Sorry to waffle on but I feel so alone as no one knows of my situation so have no one to talk to - I bet all my family and friends are wondering why I am so moody at the moment!!!
I wish you the best in what you decide and think you have gone to the right people for advice, Melanie's was not the first company I approached for advice but I feel very confident in their decisions x
Be positive & look after yourself, there are more important things in life than debts....

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Post by tracy.h » Mon Oct 15, 2007 9:14 pm
Hi Mike
So sorry things have taken a step back,but don't beat yourself up.Have you thought about doing a short term debt management plan until jane either passes her test or gets work,i know its not a long term solution but it might passify your creditors in the short term.
Andrew Gravson who posts on here from bright oak deals with dmp and in the short term until you sort your finances out then maybe its worth having a chat with him.
Keep your chin up you have come a long way think about it it might help until you can get where you want to be.

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Post by mike.s » Mon Oct 15, 2007 9:53 pm
Hi guys,
Thank you all so much for taking the time to talk, I know I have said it b4 but it really does help knowing you are there and there is someone you can talk to that understands what you are going through. Although I don't feel great at the moment, Angie is right (thanks Angie) at least I am now facing it and trying to deal with it rather than running away, which up until very recently I was very much doing. At least it is a step forward, although a very daunting and very real one. You are so right about getting further into debt, I just so want it sorted and thought we had a solution. I've not mentioned this yet but last month we actually took money out of my daughter's bank account (put there by my mum) just to pay of the minimum payments, feel sick to my stomach! Hi Debbie, ohh bless you, young and dynamic? you have made me smile, if only that were true, I used to think I was so many moons ago. P.S I'm 42, albeit I like to think a very young at heart 42. Wow 42 and in this mess, how did that happen? I do or rather did beleive that anything is possible, I left school with nothing and up until a few years back ran a daily newspaper, junior reporter, senior reporter, chief reporter and about to become news editor until I realised that I was working all hours god sent for a ridiculous income and left, the start of all the debt problems, but thats another story. As for the house, we have only sold thinking that we may be able to pay off the creditors, or keep them from the door for longer. I don't think I will ever be able to own my own home again and can't see how I'm going to be able rent, ohh dear things seem bad tonight. Emma t, one thing I can hand on heart say is that with this forumyou will never be alone or short of people who fully understand, without any judgement, what you are feeling and going through. I completely know where you are coming from with the phone calls, they are relentless and have no thought or feelings for who they are phoning, no matter what time it is. Although it is easy to understand that we owe them money and they have a job to do, hmm a break would be nice though, but look at it from their point of view, hmm ok then, few choice private words in our own heads on that one. Boy sorry to be so negative and moody sorry guys! Know what you mean about the long hours though, I'm up at 5.30am and often not back until gone 7pm, and still seem to be earning less than I was when I was 19, no-one to blame but myself I guess, but I look back and have tried so hard to make things work. I too have worked in sales, retail and direct, so know how you feel, but you are definately not alone, the support here is wonderful! Thanks Tracy a dmp was mentioned, but to be honest it didn't really sink in, need to talk with Tina further about this if it is an option. Definately will try to keep my chin up, thanks, really wanted it sorted, just feel down at moment but will bounce back tomorrow!!
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Post by maxdebt » Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:33 pm
Mike I have massive debts and thought I would lose everything but Tina and Melanie pulled me from the brink and got me on the road to recovery. You could not be in better hands. I really believe that
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Post by lily » Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:50 pm
Hi Mike

I understand that youre down at the moment and why, I have to say I do not believe in 'trying to make enough for an IVA' you either have enough or you havent and it seems you havent. What is the point of you and Jane slogging your guts for 5 years and then giving up your equity in the house for the creditors??? I tried that, I only work part time but very well paid, I have circumstances with my kids where its so difficult to do full time, almost impossible, I did it for six months and drove myself into the ground to meet payments, minimum payments. All you can do is try out the options and if they do not work, take a look at BR, believe me youre not alone, scaredkez was in the situation with kids etc feeling what you are. This isnt the end Mike, its the begining of living honestly. Its going to be a transition time, scary and unsettling but after the rapids you will find calm.

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You do not have to talk to creditors verbally, it nearly drove me mad, I live with my kids and have no adult support at all, I did go to the Doctors and was honest they really helped me. Whats the worst thing these people can do???? You can change your number I did, I refused to talk to them verbally, I told them I would reply to any letter but I wouldnt speak to them, you have the right to do this also. I have had one liner letters saying I must call this number immediately to stop further action, I replied in writing saying I am not prepared to enter into verbal discussion.

Yes they are only doing their job, but when they are phoning you all day and evening every day and evening it gets you down. Tell them you are not under any circumstances going to talk to them, ask that they put it in writing, hang up. It will help I promise.

Good luck to both of you, thinking of you all.

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Post by scaredkez » Mon Oct 15, 2007 11:21 pm
hi mike, sorry the talk with tina did not give you what you wanted to hear but she is steering you in the right direction, she is being honest and telling you an iva is not right at this time, reading your post was like reading my thoughts 12 months ago, i went through every emotion i could possibly have to try and get my head around our situation, of course i was worried mostly about what it would do to the kids,, i tried an iva it was rejected, i tried a dmp whilst trying to find better paid employment but i knew in my heart of hearts there was only one way out of my situation, mike i went BR in april and was discharged in september after 5 months still waiting for my name to go off the insolvency site, but i have it all here signed and sealed from the court i am no longer BR, it was the best step i ever took, don't get me wrong there has been a few bumps along the way especially losing my car but then mum and dad bought it back, i was not given an ipa, which means i don't pay anything for 36 months under the iva they wanted 650 per month, i am still waiting to hear about my house as to what will happen with that but they don't throw you out on the streets, i have changed my mortgage to an interest only to lower payments, and most of all my children are happy, they have what they need the most, their parents, we have learnt to laugh and smile again, play and have fun, with out being grumpy and stressed, no more phone calls no more letters actually quite lonely with out those calls as no one rings now, there is nothing to be ashamed about at all about your situation, you are doing your best, and i really hope you find closure soon, don't leave it too long like i did, its not worth it in the end, good luck to you, your wife and kids, chin up there will be a way for you.
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