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Post by s.b.w » Thu Nov 01, 2007 6:27 pm
Now this strictly isn't an IVA or Bankruptcy questions, but it could end up going that way. I know you guys are a fountain of knowledge and you may be able to help.

Ifriend has been on long term sick and has now come to the end of his sick pay period with his company. At the moment he still has a job but is receiving no sick pay. He is now receiving Incapacity Benefit and has put through a claim for mortgage interest payment from the government but this is taking forever to process.n He is surviving on his savings, but these are fast running out! and it looks like he may lose his flat if things carry on much longer!

My questions are as follows:

1. What is the likelyhood that he may get refused these payments for mortgage interest?

2. Can he appeal (and who to) if his claim is rejected?

3. How long can he expect to wait for an answer to his application?

4. Would it be advisable to contact the office dealing with his claim weekly or just leave them in peace?

Your advise would be much appreciated....

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Post by mikebdomain » Thu Nov 01, 2007 7:32 pm
First of all, ask your friend to ensure they did not take out Mortgage Payment Protection Insurance (MPPI) when they took out their mortgage. A lot of people agree to this insurance when they take out their mortgage, then forget about it, or do not understand what it is for.

Most people who get income support or jobseeker's allowance can get help from the Social Security Agency to pay their mortgage interest. It is known as income support mortgage interest (ISMI). You won't get any money to pay off the original amount you borrowed (capital) or any investment linked to your mortgage (like an endowment policy or ISA). Tell your friend to ask their lender for a statement showing how much actual interest they pay each month.

Where a mortgage is taken out partly for another purpose such as buying a car or providing a business loan, the Income Support scheme will only pay interest on the part of the loan associated with the house purchase or repairs.

Also there is a limit of £100,000 on the amount of capital that Income Support can help with the interest on. This means that if the outstanding capital on your loan, or loans, is more than £100,000 then only the interest on £100,000 can be met through Income Support help with the mortgage interest payments.

To try and answer to your specific questions;

1. As long as your friend is receiving benefit they are in with a fairly good chance.

2. In the first instance appeal directly with the office where the original claim was made.

3. Not sure about this one - sorry

4. Personally I would check to ensure they have received the application, then let them get on with it.


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Post by s.b.w » Thu Nov 01, 2007 8:17 pm
Thanks for that... very helpful

FYI

He did have the mortgage repayment insurance, but Zurich refused to pay out, claiming he had a pre-existing medical condition (he's slipped his disc, but had previous unassociated back problems, which they claimed were linked, which his consultant says aren't linked).

Thanks for the advice...

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Post by mikebdomain » Thu Nov 01, 2007 8:23 pm
aa ha - tell your friend to put in an official complaint straight away to Zurich and follow it up with a report from their doctor. Once you have the final response from Zurich, see the Financial Ombudsman Service (FOS) website for guidelines for the correct complaint timelines they have to follow. If they still refuse to pay out report them to FOS straight away.

This is a VERY hot topic in our industry at the moment, and insurance companies will not get away with shying away from paying out with false claims like this! FOS will find in your friends favour if what you say is true.


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Post by s.b.w » Thu Nov 01, 2007 8:25 pm
I know for a fact that they have refunded him the amount he has paid in insurance to date.

Will hestillbe able to complain?

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Post by mikebdomain » Thu Nov 01, 2007 8:28 pm
YES! Why on earth would they have paid him back his premium, do they admit a certain amount of liability? This sounds like hopeful shhhh money to me – I would carry on and complain.

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Post by s.b.w » Fri Nov 02, 2007 12:57 pm
I may well take your advice on this....

Sounds interesting.

I know at the moment all he's worried about is paying the mortgage, but it's something to look into once this has been sorted out and he knows where he stands!

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Post by mikebdomain » Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:00 pm
He must keep up his mortgage payments best he can, if he thinks he is going to have a problem paying he must talk to his lender and try to come to an arrangement.



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Post by s.b.w » Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:02 pm
Things are ok at the moment.... he has about 5 months worth of money there, but then that's when the problems will start.

I think we just need to wait and see what happens with the mortgage interest payment claim and then well know where he stands.

Thanks for your help Mike.

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Post by Andrew Graveson » Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:40 pm
Hi sbw,

Income Support for Mortgage Interest is only payable from week 40 of a claim. No income support for mortgage interest is paid for the first 39 weeks of the claim.

There are exceptions/variations for those with a mortgage prior to October 2nd 1995 and also for borrowers over 60 years of age.

No payment will be made to anyone with more than £8000 in savings.

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Post by s.b.w » Fri Nov 02, 2007 3:07 pm
Thanks for that Andrew

To clarify, he's in month 17 of his sickness.

Due to mis-information from the benefits office (on several occasions) he has not made a claim until July, and then was told (again after receiving mis-information from the benefits office).

He has £5,000 in savings left and has managed o his savings so far.

Fingers crossed that he hears something soon.

Thank you all for your help and advice.

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Post by s.b.w » Fri Nov 02, 2007 4:27 pm
Due to mis-information from the benefits office (on several occasions) he has not made a claim until July, and then was told (again after receiving mis-information from the benefits office) that he would have to apply for income support before they would process his claim for the mortgage benefit.

Just waiting now!

Thank you all for your help and advice.

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Post by Andrew Graveson » Fri Nov 02, 2007 6:01 pm
Hi Shaz,
There's confusion about this amongst mortgage brokers let alone staff in the benefits offices. Can your friend prove there was misinformation?

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Post by s.b.w » Mon Nov 05, 2007 12:53 pm
To an extent yes, his argument is that why would he leave the claim if knew he could get the money AND he already made a claim for his DLA.

All we want to sort out at this stage is getting his payments sorted out for now, and ten worry about any pay pay!

It's an absolute nightmare.



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Post by Andrew Graveson » Mon Nov 05, 2007 1:23 pm
I think the misinformation argument will need to be strong to get the result that you want on this. Good luck to you both on this Shaz.

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