can a dfs debt with hitachi finance be part of your IVA proposal?

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Post by MelanieGiles » Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:41 pm
With an unsecured loan agreement, title to the items passes to you upon delivery, in accordance with the Sale of Goods Act. With a hire purchase agreement, title does not pass until the final payments have been made.

I often see people who think that they were sold a hire purchase agreement - particularly for cars - actually discover that they have got an unsecured loan agreement. Clearly for IPs it is essential that this is clarified before detailed advice as to options can be provided.
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Post by KAYKAY » Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:08 pm
To all who answered by question. Thank you for clarification.
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Post by Adam Davies » Mon Jun 04, 2012 6:27 pm
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Hire Purchase, I believe, also gives the debtor rights to return the gooods after a proportion of the debt has been paid.

I must admit I haven't seen many examples of HP on furniture other than the likes of Brighthouse so will be interested to learn of other furniture retailers using this type of agreement.

I too always double check any car finance as many people believe that they are in a HP or Conditional Sale agreement only to find that the finance is actually not the above and is not secured against the vehicle.

I think I am correct in saying that Hire Purchase and Conditional Sale agreements are secured against the product and Personal loans and Fixed term loan agreements are unsecured finance agreements


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Post by MelanieGiles » Mon Jun 04, 2012 6:48 pm
That is correct Andy. I once misread a Kirby agreement for a client, where I was convinced that it was a loan rather than HP - well the Kirby man turned up to repossess a 3 year old vacuum cleaner, and I had to purchase my client a new Dyson as this was my fault!
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Post by Niobe » Mon Jun 04, 2012 6:58 pm
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Post by Adam Davies » Mon Jun 04, 2012 7:14 pm
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Wow........are Kirby still going strong ?? they have had their fair share of bad press over the years that's for sure.

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Post by MelanieGiles » Mon Jun 04, 2012 7:18 pm
They are Andy - and I actually think the vacs are quite good - but at over £1,000 each now you could have a Dyson for every room for the same price!
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Post by Adam Davies » Mon Jun 04, 2012 7:20 pm
Hi

Do you think I should get Mr's D a Kirby for her 50th birthday this year ??

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Post by Foggy » Mon Jun 04, 2012 7:20 pm
For £1,000 I would expect the vacuum to to the house all by itself !!!!
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Post by Niobe » Mon Jun 04, 2012 7:20 pm
They used to have a reputation for doing the hard sell - basically refusing to leave your house until you had bought one.

My ex ended up having to buy one just to get rid of them.

Wonder if they are still the same now?
 
 

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Post by Broke of London » Mon Jun 04, 2012 8:38 pm
£1000 for a vacuum!!! For that money I'd want it to come with a housekeeper and serve me martinis!!
 
 

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Post by Niobe » Mon Jun 04, 2012 8:45 pm
They were supposed to be good - would never pay that for a vacuum cleaner!!

The most expensive item in our kitchen is the Rangemaster cooker (now 8 years old) bought on the plastic (surprise, surprise) and very pricey but was worth it.
 
 

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Post by MelanieGiles » Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:02 pm
I think that if you bought Mrs D a Kirby for her birthday you would end up wearing it Andy! I have it on very good authority that tbe special lady is expecting diamonds!
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Post by Broke of London » Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:51 pm
Diamonds are defo the safer bet! I'm not sure what Mrs D would do with a birthday hoover!!!
 
 

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Post by MelanieGiles » Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:24 am
I can only imagine the scene in the Davie household - complete carnage springs to mind!
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