Can I get a car through the company b4 my IVA

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Andy101

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Post by Andy101 » Fri Apr 24, 2009 3:46 pm
Hi,

I am the director and 100% shareholder in a Limited company that I use for IT contracting.

I have my own car at the moment and it's worth £7000, am I likely to lose this when I start the IVA?

If I will, it occurred to me that I could get a lease car through the company before the IVA and sell my own.

As part of the IVA, would I be expected to get rid of the lease car?
Would it make any difference if I was spending £250 or £400 on it?
 
 

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Post by Michael Peoples » Fri Apr 24, 2009 3:55 pm
Hi Andy. The car is not necessarily going to be taken from you in an IVA particularly if a reasonable vehicle is required for work purposes. Even if you raised £7k for it to give creditors and leased one at £200 per month there would be an overall loss to creditors of £5000 [60x£200 less £7k]. There are other options such as selling the car to the company and using it as a company vehicle but given it is only worth £7k I would not be too concerned about it.
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Post by MelanieGiles » Fri Apr 24, 2009 4:32 pm
It is unlikely that a car of that value would be affected in an IVA - as it does need to last you for the next five years. If you did sell the car prior to the IVA, would you be suggesting that the money realised would be offered as an initial lump sum?
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Post by Andy101 » Fri Apr 24, 2009 4:37 pm
Thanx Micheal.

If I sold the car and used the money to finance my bills for the next 6 weeks and organised a lease car through the company, would it cause a prob during the IVA negotiations?

Would the size of the payments make a difference?
 
 

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Post by Andy101 » Fri Apr 24, 2009 4:39 pm
Melanie, probably not. See above.

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Post by Michael Peoples » Fri Apr 24, 2009 4:45 pm
When you say the bills what do you mean exactly? If you mean paying creditors it would be pointless as you would lose the car and be no further forward. It would be better to not pay creditors at all and keep the car. If you mean to put the money into the company to keep it afloat this is entirely different and raises other problems.

The lease would not be too much of an issue as I assume it would be in the company name with you possibly as guarantor. It would affect the profitability of the company though and this would impact on whatever dividends you were being paid.

There are a number of issues that would need clarified but I think realistically that you should keep the car and speak to an IP as soon as possible.
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Post by Andy101 » Fri Apr 24, 2009 5:01 pm
My situation is a bit complicated because of the way my money is earned. I have periods of high earnings when I have a contract and zero for months on end when there is no work (now).

What I'm trying to do is sell the car and use some of the proceeds to pay the 3 month advance payment on a lease car. The rest will go into my bank account to cover future mortgage payments and a new central heating boiler (why do these thing break at the worst possible time).

I would hope the IVA wouldn't just take all the available money in my account due to my work pattern (I need money in the bank to get me through the periods with no earnings)
 
 

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Post by MelanieGiles » Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:01 pm
Seems a reasonable plan. Have you taken steps to appoint an insolvency practitioner to act for you yet?
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Post by Andy101 » Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:11 pm
I've spoken to someone but not formally asked him to do the IVA yet.
 
 

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Post by David Mond » Sun Apr 26, 2009 7:05 pm
No point in selling the car to your company as you would be penalised on tax.

I am sure after you speak to an IP what you need to do pre- entering into an IVA appears reasonable. But it must be handled with care after full disclosure of all material facts.

I would also before making any final decision on your chosen IP to have a chat with another one for good measure.

Visit www.iva.com for reviews on recommended firms. Good luck and let us know how you get on.
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Post by Confused.com » Sun Apr 26, 2009 10:45 pm
If Andy101 enters into an IVA will he still be able to act as a guarantor for a lease car.
 
 

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Post by MelanieGiles » Sun Apr 26, 2009 10:53 pm
Only with the permission of the IVA supervisor.
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