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Hyperdrive

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Post by Hyperdrive » Fri Apr 26, 2013 10:38 pm
So 11k left on the payments, and 11k as a F&F settlement?
Personally I`d go for the F&F.
 
 

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Post by Nutkins » Fri Apr 26, 2013 10:47 pm
I personally wouldn't post it on here where payplan can obviously see exactly what is what!! You perhaps should have put forward an offer of 11k without discussing it any more!! By stating on a public forum that yr uncle is willing to offer u 25k is bound to make tongues wag at payplan who work closely with the creditors!!!!
 
 

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Post by Foggy » Fri Apr 26, 2013 10:51 pm
I doubt that really matters Nutkin. Whatever the hypothetical whys and werefores discussed on here, the uncle is free to ( and has) withdraw the offer of a gift if he sees it going to creditors. In the given circumstances -- no gift to Mitch and, now, no lump sum to the creditors either -- so the staus quo remains and the creditors, effectively, lose.
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Post by Hyperdrive » Fri Apr 26, 2013 10:56 pm
I don`t think that`s the issue here Nutkins. Perhaps there is a genuine misunderstanding of what a F&F offer should be ie repayments v credit owed
 
 

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Post by Nutkins » Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:03 pm
Y do the creditors lose? Sorry I don't understand! All I'm saying is be careful what you put out on a public forum! If 25k was paid in it would not be 'going down the drain' but paying off debts! I am not saying that should happen but just keep quiet offer 11k and move on if accepted!!
 
 

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Post by Foggy » Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:13 pm
I know where you are coming from Nutkins.

As for going down the drain -- that is in the view of the uncle who was to gift the money. He wanted to give his relative a gift .. not pay the creditors, so, from his point of view the money would be wasted .. so he is no longer giving it.

In this instance the creditors lose by virtue of not getting a decent lump sum of the whole promised dividend now (bird in the hand is worth two in the bush), but will get it in dribs and drabs over the next few years --- if they don't sell on the debt for pennies in the meantime.
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Post by Nutkins » Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:36 pm
Not the view of the uncle foggy if you read the post again!! Mitch just offer 11k and keep the rest quiet!
 
 

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Post by MelanieGiles » Sat Apr 27, 2013 1:46 am
It is your uncle's money and not yours. Therefore your IP cannot grab it, and personally I would persist on insisting that they offer a lump sum based on the number of contributions you have left to pay. If your payments are only £200 per month, and you are already some way into the IVA, then I cannot see why an offer based on £200 times the number of payments you have left should not be put forward. Dig in an insist, as surely there has to be some benefit in getting the IVA concluded earlier - including your creditors.
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