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Post by BrassicLintus » Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:40 am
I went BR on Wednesday (my name is on the register already!!), but I got a letter in the post yesterday from company name deleted by request Limited. Anyone know who these people are? They say they can help me by stopping the repossession of my house, paying my creditors and cancelling my bankruptcy!!! How? If they could do that why haven't I heard of them before!!! I know it's probably a scam but was just curious. Oh and I also got a letter yesterday from Norton Finance asking if I wanted to take out extra money on my secured loan!!! Tis a strange world! And a quick question for Melanie, why do they print your occupation in the bankruptcy notice that's published in the Western Mail? As you know I have a fairly unusual job so it wouldn't be hard even for total strangers to work out who I am! I know it has to be published but why in so much detail? Many thanks.
 
 

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Post by pippa » Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:53 am
Hi Brassiclintus

Hope all is well,

I also had a letter from this company imediately after my details appeared on the insolvency website, sorry to use the phrase but 'ambulance chasers' came to mind. I didnt think there was any further advice they could give me that i hadnt already received.

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Post by BrassicLintus » Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:58 am
Yes Pippa "ambulance chasers" is an apt description! How many more can we expect?! Guess I'll just have to dig my shredder back out! [:)]
 
 

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Post by MelanieGiles » Sat Sep 01, 2007 10:11 am
Hi there Brassic

I think the publication of the occupation is a hang over to Dickensian times when most people who went bankrupt were either business owners or gentlemen. So the publication of the occupation is allegedly in the best interests of the general public - very old fashioned these days in my opinion.

I wouldn't worry too much about it - there are not that many peopole who read the legal notices pages of the Western Mail.

As to the company that has contacted you - I think that you have summed up the merits of their advice pretty wisely. Having carefully considered your options, and having taken professional advice, it amazes me that these companies think that they can help!

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Post by jane.l » Sat Sep 01, 2007 12:25 pm
Well, I was going to post a query about this myself. My husband got the very same letter this morning, (went bankrupt on Thursday) Funnily enough, I did not get one, but I now realise it may be because I was listed as unemployed.

How on Earth can you cancel the bankruptcy?? Only by paying loads of money, I presume this company are trying to “lend” us hundreds of thousands of pounds to pay everything back??????
 
 

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Post by Storm » Sat Sep 01, 2007 12:39 pm
Info - Melanie can probably advise more about the process.......

From Press Release.

Bankruptcy annulment re-mortgage service launched

A bankruptcy annulment re-mortgage service has been launched in association with the Bankruptcy Protection Fund.

Data from the DTI show that bankruptcies are not only continuing to rise but they are rising at a fast rate. There were 13,501 individuals registered as bankrupt in the last three months of 2005 - an 11% increase on the previous three months and a 38% increase on the last three months of 2004.

And individuals are being made bankrupt for lower levels of debt. New research from the Insolvency Service shows that the average debt proved in a bankruptcy reduced to £11,128 in the financial year 2004/05, compared with £22,423 in 2001/02.

Bankruptcy can be very costly for the bankrupt individual, with the Government not only taking 17% of the value of any asset sale in tax but also the Insolvency Practitioner charging fees of typically 20% for acting as the bankruptcy trustee. The Insolvency Practitioner additionally charges 10% of any disbursements. Furthermore, the bankrupt individual is often forced to sell their home, with estate agents, legal and other associated costs being incurred. When all the fees and costs are taken into account, the individual's indebtedness can more than double.

In many cases, property owners are being forced into bankruptcy when they have enough equity available in their property to cover their debts. In the new service, we work with the Bankruptcy Protection Fund and a bankrupt home-owner to arrange for all their unsecured debts to be paid off.

Once it is proved to the Court that the individual no longer has any unsecured debts, the Court annuls the bankruptcy order. The bankruptcy is stricken from the record - it is as if it had never happened. A re-mortgage is arranged with a specialist lender on the basis that, at the end of the process, the individual will no longer be bankrupt and the original bankruptcy is therefore ignored for mortgage purposes. The re-mortgage is completed once the acting solicitor confirms that the bankruptcy no longer appears on the record.

This straightforward and transparent service offers substantial benefits to bankrupts. They don't have to lose their home, their situation is resolved at a much lower cost, they no longer have the stigma of having been a bankrupt and they have a much quicker route back to being a 'prime' credit risk.


There website is - http://www.bpfltd.co.uk/
 
 

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Post by jane.l » Sat Sep 01, 2007 12:53 pm
Ok, we have just been through hell to get out of our massive debt, (like we did not thoroughly research it first!) so why don’t we just jump straight back in then, eh???

NOT!!!!!
 
 

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Post by Adam Davies » Sat Sep 01, 2007 1:01 pm
Hi
I think this type of service is aimed at those who have buried their head in the sand and have let bankruptcy overtake them.Anyone with enough equity to pay off unsecured debts has obviously not taken any advise before the bankruptcy.
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Post by jane.l » Sat Sep 01, 2007 1:06 pm
exactly, if we had any equity, we would not be in this mess, I just cannot believe people would go through bankrutpcy without looking into it first
 
 

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Post by MelanieGiles » Sat Sep 01, 2007 1:35 pm
This service is aimed at those people who have sufficient assets to discharge their debts and the costs of the bankruptcy in full - ie to have it annulled. Nothing clever or new about that - it has been going on for years if the circumstances are appropriate - and most mortgage brokers could do this if there was sufficient equity able to be released.

But why would someone declare themselves bankrupt if they had sufficient assets to pay off their debts in full! For every 100 letters this firm sends out, I would be suprised if they had more than one enquiry!

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Post by Adam Davies » Sat Sep 01, 2007 1:40 pm
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Melanie,I think it,s for people who are made bankrupt by a creditor,having ignored all communications etc
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Post by MelanieGiles » Sat Sep 01, 2007 1:43 pm
Yes that is possible, but that type of bankruptcy is quite rare and being used less and less now with the increased use of charging orders. If a petitioning creditor is aware that there is equity in a property they want to be first in the queue rather than sharing the spoils with the rest of the creditors.

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Post by Adam Davies » Sat Sep 01, 2007 2:10 pm
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Good point
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Post by Skippy » Sat Sep 01, 2007 2:12 pm
I had something similar - one problem, I don't have a house!

Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, today is the present - a gift to make the most of.

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Post by BrassicLintus » Sun Sep 02, 2007 12:29 am
Many thanks all. And I've just read an article that states that "In research by Ipsos MORI designed to uncover the new taboos of life in 21st century Britain, going bankrupt came a close second to being caught drink driving, with getting into debt following up in fourth place, after being caught lying.

Bankruptcy was cited as the top social faux pas by age groups as disparate as young and supposedly irresponsible 18-24 year-olds and 35-44 year-olds at the peak of their careers"! (But the survey was carried out for Credit Expert!)
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