Completed IVA. Grant Thornton have now changed previous advice and want additional payments.

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steveh197932

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Post by steveh197932 » Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:51 pm
Hi. I have just completed my 5 year IVA and have no stopped making payments, i rung my IVA up who are grant thornton and they said i will be going through the closure procedure.

They have now informed me that i need to complete a review for the last year of my IVA and requested my payslips which i have sent and they are now saying that i owe them monies in additional payments.

In october 2011 i asked them if i needed to up my payments as i was earning a little bit more and they said that i should just carry on as normal, but now apparently i owe them money.

I have never missed a payment on my IVA overpaid by £100 a month on my 2nd year and still after i have completed and stopped paying them, they want more money.

Is this right? And can they do this.

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Post by lem » Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:15 pm
I guess you need to ask GT for a full breakdown of your payments and where they are saying that you owe monies from, only then can you establish if you have fulfilled the IVA conditions and paid across the extra that needed to be paid.
 
 

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Post by Grant Thornton » Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:53 am
Steveh197932 - As Supervisor of your IVA we are obligated to complete a final income and expenditure review to understand if you have earned any bonus, overtime etc.
Please contact the Customer Service team on 0844 855 2166 and we will be able to clarify any concerns that you have.
Kind Regards
Karol
 
 

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Post by John1782 » Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:07 am
Steveh197932
Exactly the same has happened to me, although i completed my final review no monies were required but they still want more as i have now been made redundant 3 months after my final repayment in May.
Don't expect a quick resolution either it's at least 6 months to close your IVA.
 
 

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Post by steveh197932 » Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:22 pm
I'm not that concerned about paying additional payments if there due, i'm kind of expecting it. My only concern is that my wage slips if you saw them are broken down into lots of different payments and i'm worried that these different payment breakdowns are misinterrpruted as overtime and i'll be expected to pay monies that i simply have not had. I have spoke to GT about them and explained how my wages work, but i'm worried there not going to be fully understood as my payment methods are ancient. I'm probably worrying over very little, but after 5 years of this financial torture, which is my own fault i know, i thought i'd finally had closure in june when i made my final payment and now it seems to have come back to haunt me again and the stress and anxienty that i thought had gone is creeping back again.
 
 

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Post by tomhem1980 » Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:09 am
font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">quote:<hr height="1" noshade>Originally posted by Grant Thornton

Steveh197932 - As Supervisor of your IVA we are obligated to complete a final income and expenditure review to understand if you have earned any bonus, overtime etc.
Please contact the Customer Service team on 0844 855 2166 and we will be able to clarify any concerns that you have.
Kind Regards
Karol
I completed payments on my IVA with GT back in april/may 2012 and told twice my case had been moved to closure only to find in november that it had been 'overlooked' and so added for closure at the start of nov. All I get from grant thornton is ther run around, calling them endlessly with no joy and no end in sight. I wouldnt touch them with a barge pole as they are doing the same to a close friend who finished his payments some 4 months before me!! we are both reporting the matter to the financial ombudsman service. BEWARE OF GRANT THORNTON
 
 

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Post by MelanieGiles » Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:34 am
Copies of payslips ought to be requested at each annual review, including the final one, as Karol has righly pointed out to check whether any additioanl monies have been earned during the past year which would need to be paid into the IVA prior to completion. The final year is no exception to this process.
Regards, Melanie Giles, Insolvency Practitioner
 
 

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Post by jeffw » Wed Jan 16, 2013 5:05 pm
e-mail I sent to Grant Thornton,

Could Grant Thornton please explain to me why my supervisory charges jump from £6,188.00 as stated on original proposal document (I will gladly send you a copy should you require it) to a staggering £18,170.00 ?

This is their reply,

I can advise with regards to fees calculated that when you transferred to Grant Thornton from Blair Endersby, you agreed to our transfer terms and conditions. Part of the terms was Grant Thornton's fees would be 25% of asset realisation's within the arrangement. This was accepted by way of variation by your creditors and therefore when calculating the 100p/£ value, the fees needed are as stated to you.
 
 

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Post by Foggy » Wed Jan 16, 2013 5:54 pm
25% !!!!

As for agreeing to transfer terms -- were you given an option to disagree ??? I somehow doubt it.
My opinions are merely that .. opinions based on experience. Always seek professional advice.
IVA Completed 23rd July 2013 .... C.C. 10th January 2014
 
 

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Post by jeffw » Wed Jan 16, 2013 6:15 pm
No Foggy, I like thousands of others realistically was just sent a letter from Blar Endersby telling us the change was taking place.
I again probably like most others was NOT given an option to disagree.
 
 

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Post by Foggy » Wed Jan 16, 2013 6:28 pm
I wonder if they have done the same with us RSM evacuees. And I was under the (obviously mis-guided) impression that you had to agree to variations.
My opinions are merely that .. opinions based on experience. Always seek professional advice.
IVA Completed 23rd July 2013 .... C.C. 10th January 2014
 
 

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Post by MerlinL14 » Wed Jan 16, 2013 6:42 pm
You had no option to appeal the 25% fees, but in my case everything was going great and there was no reason to feel this was extreme. You could opt out of your IVA being varied to make it within the guide lines of 'protocol' but again not knowing the in's and out's of what my IVA was written initially and the protocol being the better result was an alien concept that was shrouded in legalese and contract english in the small print. I can read but have a short attention span when the words just blur into blah, blah, blah...
I think even the creditors were just shoehorned into the change over as challenging it would possibly cause failure of loads of BE customer's IVA's and there loss of a resolution to our debts with them.
Last Payment made 04/12/14. Completion Certificate 25/7/15. IVA company GT. No Issues
 
 

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Post by MelanieGiles » Wed Jan 16, 2013 9:30 pm
If an IVA is to be varied in any shape or format it does require the agreement of the debtor as well as creditors. However I do wonder what would have happened to your case if you had witheld agreement.

This matter is of particular importance when dividends of 100p in the £ are payable, given that you are directly funding the IP fees.
Regards, Melanie Giles, Insolvency Practitioner
 
 

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Post by steveh197932 » Thu Jan 17, 2013 8:13 pm
Problem solved few months ago. Brought to a conclusion on both parties. Thanks for your input
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