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Post by mish1953 » Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:51 am
If the cost of living is going up will it mean that we will ba allowed more for our domestic expenditure .

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Post by MelanieGiles » Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:57 am
Unfortunately whilst creditors continue to rely upon outdated and unrealistic expenditure guidelines produced by the CCCS, I fear not!

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Post by Skippy » Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:03 am
Well I'm just about to send of my IPOQ to the OR and I have increased a few things - mainly petrol and fuel (now have gas as well as electricity) as we had a generous food allowance already. I don't think they will reduce my IPA, but I'm hoping they won't try and snaffle any of my pay rise - the one from May that STILL hasn't been sorted out - as it will just about cover it. If they do try and take any of it I don't know what I'll do...

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Post by douglass » Thu Nov 15, 2007 1:37 pm
Hi Skip, I hope you are well. Quick question - does the OR ask you to complete a new I+E every year for the 3 years of the IPA? Also, do you have to do a new I+E each time your income changes? Any help appreciated! I have just posted off my IPA - I am going to have to be strict with myself, now I am truly on a budget! D.
 
 

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Post by sonyse2t5 » Thu Nov 15, 2007 2:17 pm
I think it is barmy to say IVA firms use CCC outdated I/E guidelines.My IVA company used their own even though I sent them my CCC's one. And I got more from that than on a CCCS DMP.

Let's answer the question directly to the poster and say that creditors DO NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE RAISE IN THE COST OF LIVING. With Inflations at 3% this can be only counteracted by an increase in pay.

OPlease don't start blaming CCCS. I am sure they would be amused if they heard that.I wonder if their own IP uses the their own DMP template. Shall I call and ask??
 
 

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Post by Adam Davies » Thu Nov 15, 2007 2:31 pm
Sonyse2t5
Again you have launched into a rant over a simple question.
Creditors DO take into account increases in utility bills etc and these are normally offset by annual pay rises at work.
You base your whole view on IVAs and creditors based on your experience of one provider.Melanie has countless years experience over a huge range of creditors and I certainly do not feel that her comments are "barmy"
I suggest that you refrain from posting until you have replied to my email that I sent you last night

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Post by insol » Thu Nov 15, 2007 2:40 pm
did anybody catch the recent release from the office of national statistics. average expenditure on food for a family of 4 was £66 per week. which i beleive is far less than most creditors ask for. would like it but my it skill sare limited i'm sorry to say.
 
 

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Post by louisa.s » Thu Nov 15, 2007 2:40 pm
I do think that IP's (& creditors) do take increased costs into consideration. We've recently had our annual review and we were fortunate that our payrises offset the increased living costs and we were not required to make any additional payments but it was all relative and realistic and we've now accepted that we simply cannot live the way we used to live before (and that took a while believe me!)
 
 

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Post by couple31 » Thu Nov 15, 2007 2:40 pm
I'd be interested in seeing a copy of the CCCS expenditure guidelines if anyone can link to them?
 
 

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Post by insol » Thu Nov 15, 2007 2:51 pm
the link to the ONS site is this

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=284

personally i was surprised by the results.
 
 

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Post by MelanieGiles » Thu Nov 15, 2007 3:31 pm
Well what I actually said was that CREDITORS rely on CCCS guidelines, and not IP firms. There is a clear difference.

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Post by OPTIMIST12 » Thu Nov 15, 2007 3:44 pm
I can vouch for the fact that the CCCS guidelines are tough (I consulted them before proceeding to an IVA) but they also do a great job in bringing you down to earth after years of living in the crazy "never-never" world that is out of control credit.
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Post by catullus » Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:39 pm
And from memory the CCCS guidelines haven't been updated since 2002/3. I wonder why?
 
 

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Post by Adam Davies » Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:50 pm
Hi
Why ?
Is it to return as much as possible to the banks ?

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Post by catullus » Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:03 pm
You might be right there Andy!!
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