Creditors Clamp Down On IVAs

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Post by DebtDummy » Sat Mar 24, 2007 8:06 am
I thought something was up with creditors when my IVA final draft had a percentage of 45p/£. When I asked my IP at the time why did it increase by 5p before the creditors meeting? I was informed 40p/£ is no longer acceptable and 45p/£ would get it accepted. Anyway, I came across this article and thought it would be of interest.It's short, but informative. Link for further articles: http://www.fool.co.uk

Creditors Clamp Down On IVAs
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By Jane Mack | 23 March 2007
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Banks are taking a tougher stance with applications for Individual Voluntary Arrangements (IVAs) following massive increases in the amount of money they have had to write off as more people default on their debts.

An IVA is an arrangement between debtors and their creditors to repay a percentage of the debt over the life of the IVA - usually 5 years. It's done under the supervision of an insolvency practitioner and at the end of the IVA any outstanding debt is usually written off.

They're usually only suitable if the debtor has unsecured debts of at least £15,000 and in order for an IVA to be accepted, 75% (in value) of creditors must vote to accept it. The advantage to them is that they usually get back more than they would have had the debtor gone bankrupt.

In return, the debtor does not suffer the same restrictions imposed on bankrupts and pays a single monthly sum. That payment is determined by how much he/she can reasonably afford to pay after his/her normal cost of living expenses have been deducted from income. Often an Insolvency Practitioner can negotiate as much as a 75% reduction in how much the debtor owes.

However, some banks have been cracking down by refusing to agree to an IVA unless the debtor pays at least 40 pence or more in the pound. As a result debtors are being pushed into bankruptcy or debt managment plans. The latter are informal agreements that are attractive in some ways, but there are no legal restrictions on their length (unlike IVAs), so debtors could be shackled to their creditors for a very long period.

In the last three months of 2006, there were 17,063 bankruptcies, an increase of nearly 25% on the corresponding quarter of the previous year, and 12,741 IVAs, an increase of almost 82% on the same quarter of the previous year.

IVAs are tough enough as it is -- around a quarter of debtors who sign up for them fail to sustain their payments for the full five years and end up going bankrupt anyway. If the banks make it even harder for people to sustain payments, the number of IVAs being entered into might fall but bankruptcies could rise even more. Creditors could find their hard-line stance is equivalent to shooting themselves in the foot.

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Post by tracy.h » Sat Mar 24, 2007 1:39 pm
Well done this information is in laymen terms its straight forward easy to understand,especaily for those that need answers relateing to an IVA or DMP and BR,and if creditors are harming themselfes for being greedy then hopefully they may start to look at realistic alternatives to help people who are struggling to survive and extending the 40p to 45p in the pound seems rediculous i struggeled to offer 40p and they still wanted my home.Glad you posted this it will help people understand how the goalposts are being moved as and when the creditors want.
 
 

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Post by mike_m » Sat Mar 24, 2007 3:11 pm
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Very well put!! I think now the IVA'S are becoming tighter there will be once again a rise in bankruptcies especially if you do not own your own home. Personally I think people are crazy for entering an IVA if they don't own a home as I know someone who was discharged within 6 months of bankruptcy, her name is no longer on the register and she is now going for a mortgage and the start of her br was only 18mths ago!! (thisis just my opinion though0 I feel quite disheartened when I'm still in the IVA with details on file etc paying more thinking I was doing the right thing. I always thought it didn't have the same stigma but I'm not sure theres much in it anymore.
 
 

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Post by go_4_broke » Sat Mar 24, 2007 9:06 pm
Hi all

The IVA market seems to be coming to an interesting point.

In the early days, the purpose of the IVA was to demonstrate to creditors that they could get a slightly better deal than if the debtor went bankrupt, on the assumption that they actually would do it.

Since then creditors have come to realize that many people who take on IVA's are extremely reluctant to go that far and are taking advantage accordingly.

Mike may well be right in that the number of bankruptcies will increase, what I think will also increase is the number of people who get shoehorned into barely affordable IVA'a and neverending DMP's, ending up in a 'debt limbo' being neither indebted or debt free for many years - and probably ending up bankrupt anyway.

This will take a long time to work through the system, meaning that the 'squeeze' on debtors is likely to continue.

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Post by David N » Wed Mar 28, 2007 5:07 pm
Valid points everyone - those in the industry knew much of this anyway, but .......... there are ambulance chasers out there, they have been advertising for quite some time now but with trillions out in debt the media (Mail etc) have escalated the ambulance chasers profiles!

As I see it creditors are going to be more and more likely to push the 50p+ figures and they will become involved in IP fees as to what is reasonable.

For the advertisers, generally they do not seem to care so long as they get thier fee - some are charging £1,500 up front and then still loads more monthly - cheeky sods charging the initial set up fee to what is left on the credit cards too!
Regards and beware, David N
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