Do I need to declare I am in an IVA???

[TheMatrix]

It's not illegal to write a bad reference, so long as it is fair, accurate and true they can write, or say, what they wish on a reference.

[MelanieGiles]

This is one for Julie if she is around? Are those wedding celebrations still going on in South Wales? Jan - if you have her contact details can you ask her to log on - this is a HR issue and we need advice from a qualified HR expert to put an end to this.

Personally, I was not aware that an employer is legally obliged to give a reference.

[plasticdaft]

Hi, your employer is legally obliged to give you a reference and it cannot be negative. But man can they make them sing with faint praise!! I only mention this because my dad has sacked people without reference before and my sis and I ganged up on him when we found out...but he didn't know it was illegal and neither did any of the ex-employees! In times like these we all need to know our rights...sermon over.

Jojoey, are you out there? How is everything going?

So if an employee is sacked for gross misconduct they still get a glowing reference?

[kallis3]

I wouldn't have thought so.

Mel - I've emailed her.

[plasticdaft]

Employers do not have to give a reference unless it says they will in your contract. Straight off the directgov website.

Paul

[Julie]

Hi Guys,

Apologies the wedding celebrations are just ending and I'm on granny duties for the next week so only now catching up ( thanks for the email Jan).

An employer does not have to give a reference, however any reference that is given MUST be a true reference. Individuals have the right to see any references.

Most companies now supply statements rather than references, which state length of time employed, role and reason for leaving.

Hope this clarifies the query....I'll try to keep up with the forum, but please give me a nudge if needed.

[kallis3]

Thanks for that Julie, so glad that you don't have to give a positive reference to a total jerk!

[Skippy]

Thanks Julie and Paul. If you did have to give a positive reference it would make a mockery of references as far as I'm concerned!

[kallis3]

I agree totally!

[Broke of London]

I didn't say you had to give everybody a positive reference; just that you can't be negative. This leaves room for being totally ambivalent and saying why someone left - such as sacked for misconduct. Apologies for messing up on saying everyone is entitled to a reference.

[Jojoey]

Hey

Seems like there has been lots of discussion since I've been away.

Basically HR contacted me today regarding my declaration. It seems it is an issue despite the fact that I am not a member of practice staff (accountant). The decision ultimately sits with the Department Leader.

I am so worried - I have an awful feeling that they will not proceed with my application. I have had a sick feeling all day and am just waiting for the enevitable. It's so upsetting to think that I have done the right thing and declared the IVA and I now face loosing the job. I have been with the firm for a number of years and now I face loosing the new post that I was successful in obtaining.

I'll keep you all posted.

I just have to keep telling myself that things happen for a reason.

[MelanieGiles]

I cannot understand why employers would be so prejudiced against an employee who has had personal financial difficulties - usually through no fault of their own.

[Broke of London]

Hi Jojoey, it's not lost yet. You have years of good service, good performance reviews and the recommendation of your manager in your favour...not to mention that you are obviously the best person for the job. Can you ask for an informal chat with the department leader to explain your situation...or can you boss make representations for you? Good luck and let us know how it goes x x

[kallis3]

What a ridiculous situation!

Are you in a union Jojoey? If so, I'd contact them for assistance.

Hope all goes well and you get some good news.

[stewpots]

Hey

Seems like there has been lots of discussion since I've been away.

Basically HR contacted me today regarding my declaration. It seems it is an issue despite the fact that I am not a member of practice staff (accountant). The decision ultimately sits with the Department Leader.

I am so worried - I have an awful feeling that they will not proceed with my application. I have had a sick feeling all day and am just waiting for the enevitable. It's so upsetting to think that I have done the right thing and declared the IVA and I now face loosing the job. I have been with the firm for a number of years and now I face loosing the new post that I was successful in obtaining.

I'll keep you all posted.

I just have to keep telling myself that things happen for a reason.

You were already in the Job ?

You were already in an IVA when you applied for the transfer ?