Expenditure - PETS!!!

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Sully

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Post by Sully » Thu Jul 19, 2007 3:15 pm
This is all about pets. Our pet insurance yet again comes under Miscellaneous, but when doing the original proposals, we simply provided the cost of the pet insurance – we didn’t then realise that the vaccinations at over £30 a time for each cat annually (we have 3 cats) cannot be claimed back under the insurance but is essential. Also, we have had at least three incidents where we have had to take our cats to the emergency out of hours vets (broken legs etc that couldn’t wait) and they cost £95.00 just to be seen! On one occasion, after treatment it came to double that and we thought we would get it all back on the insurance but didn’t read the small print which said £80.00 excess – we are no longer with this company now, but it is still £45.00 excess AND takes well over a week to come through - the Emergency Vets say their contract with the insurers says they have up to 10 days to send the forms on to the insurers – and then they take several days to process the application. So we would need to increase this monthly figure from £15.00 to at least £30.00 - which doesn’t even cover the possible emergencies. Would this be acceptable? We had our cats long before we got into this situation and don’t like them suffering because of us.

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Pet food comes under our food budget. We were feeding our three cats the cheapest cat food and brekkies we could get from a local well-known cheap food store. One of our cats became very ill late last year and the vets diagnosed a very serious UTI and said she could have died. The vet worked out that the food was the likeliest culprit and they advised us not to buy any cat food with a particular chemical in it – which surprise surprise most of the cheaper foods had. This upset us unbelieveably because this was one of the times where we had had to delay emergency treatment because we literally had no money in our accounts and no one to borrow off - and the vet said she would have died if we had waited another day. When we did our original budget we didn’t break down the food budget into categories (food, toiletries, household stuff etc) – our IP just said our budget was classed as an acceptable amount for x2 adults, but I know a year ago we weren’t spending as much on cat food as we have to now! As seen from my earlier postings, we can't 'borrow' from any other areas!
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Post by MelanieGiles » Thu Jul 19, 2007 6:33 pm
Your pet expenditure should have been shown separately - and again based on what you actually spend.

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Post by charlottie » Thu Jul 19, 2007 6:51 pm
Hi
We weren't allowed anything for pet food or vet bills i.e annual innoculations, only the monthly insurance. In the 3 months running up to the innoculations I put away £15 to cover and had more than enough.

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Post by MelanieGiles » Thu Jul 19, 2007 7:02 pm
Who disallowed this - the IP or creditors?

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Post by charlottie » Thu Jul 19, 2007 7:12 pm
I'm sure it was the IP, we were allowed insurance as it was regular monthly outgoing. We were told this was the norm and as we were very green about the whole thing we just accepted it.
We put our faith in DFD that they were acting in all our best interests, I don't think that to be the case now especially after reading all the posts on this site.
We're struggling but coping at present.

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Post by mondaynight » Thu Jul 19, 2007 7:26 pm
Hi Lotte - I have been in a DMP for a couple of years and thought it would be a good idea to go for an IVA - I chose the comany you did and found that they are deciding what can and cant be allowed. I have a student son at home and wanted a small allowance of £35 a week to assist with his accomodation costs when he moves in September I was told that although the creditors allow it now on a DMP they wont with an IVA. Guess I will be staying with DMP until he graduates next year.

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Post by BlueShoes » Thu Jul 19, 2007 7:57 pm
We have re-homed our dog due to our daughter's poor health (it was an exacerbating factor) and sadly the bunnies and guinea pigs have all gone to the pet graveyard in the sky ( so currently pet free, but am being pestered for baby bunnies again!)
However, I would say our "pet bills" including food, insurance, innoculations, etc came to well over £50 a month) Surely you have to state the amount they cost you to keep?
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Post by MelanieGiles » Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:00 pm
I'm just note sure who is making the rules up these days! I regularly put forward proposals where parents are supporting their children in further education, with very little difficulty.

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Post by mondaynight » Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:47 pm
I have been trailing through these allowances and cannot beleive the difference in what is seen as allowable and the amount available that is seen as acceptable. As an example using the same IVA comapny as sully. I have had a draft proposal made up been denied support for my student son, am allowed £50 for 3 of us for haircuts (anyone who goes to a ladies hairdressers will know how difficult that is!!!)
I would be allowed £20 pm for perscriptions (2 of us are on repeat perstiptions ) nothing for dentist and £280 for food) No wonder they are saying I could afford to pay 100% of the debt back to the creditors.[:0]
 
 

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Post by Adam Davies » Fri Jul 20, 2007 3:53 pm
Hi Mondaynight
Are you proposing a 100p in the £1 dividend ?
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