Face-to-face with my IP

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DebtDummy

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Post by DebtDummy » Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:13 pm
My hubby and I had a face-to-face with our IP yesterday. Sorry, NOT IP the case manager. He took the draft and went over it page by page. He seemed confident he could get it accepted as he has professional experience in dealing with the creditors before. He has had only 2 IVAs outright rejected in the past year. This gave me and hubby encouragement. He then added that there are no guarentees it will be accepted and/or accepted without modifications. We felt deflated again.

He explained the creditors could vote yes to hubby's and no to mine and that means it is not accepted. It could happen the other way around with the same end result because they are interdependent upon each other.

The windfall statement. He explained if a £100 or less we do not have to report it to him,but over a £100 he needs to be informed even if it's won on the lottery. Any payrises, must be reported immediately along with bonuses and overtime;and 50% will be taken and given to the creditors.The payrise may not be put towards the IVA IF certain expenditures increased, i.e., fuel costs,utilities,etc. The yearly review he explained we have to keep receipts of any item that cost a £100 or more even £100.01 and a record of what it was, etc. The notional selling costs can't be included in the IVA because we are not selling the property.

In the event the IVA fails he stated hubby and I would return to the pre-IVA situation and either we or the creditors could petition for bankruptcy. He has an obligation to inform the creditors that (after all other venues of reasonably maintaining the IVA have been sought)we
have failed, then it is out of his hands and we deal directly with the creditors.

He made it very very clear that IF that should happen,''do NOT think... you might not lose your home, you may not lose your home, think, you WILL lose your home...'' He then continued to explain what going bankrupt entails, beneficial interest, an OR and his/her role,paying ex-creditors back 75% of disposable income, etc. After all of this he asked us did we have any questions no matter how silly we feel they may be about the IVA or bankruptcy.

He also stated that those in the military and police officers can go bankrupt without any problems in loosing employment.IP experts, did I hear him corrrectly? He said the IVA is evolving as we spoke and even more changes will be evident in Sept.2007. He then stressed the importance of maintaining an IVA.

It made me think of an 'IVA philosophy'. Basically, you are living on next to nothing to pay back your creditors and rightfully so to ensure the maximum payment to your creditors. You and your IP are sort of glued-at-the-hip for years. S/he are always in your life for the duration of your IVA....period. It's important that you like him/her and trust them with your life because that is what an IVA is, your life. At the end of it,you keep the second most important thing,your house(hubby and children are numero uno)and learned how to budget very well all with cash.

So, what's next for me? The corrected IVA will arrive by this Friday. We sign and return it. He receives it Monday and files it at the court house within 2 days. He said the creditors meeting will take place 4-6 weeks from the time it's been filed at the court house. In early March probably if not sooner. We may beat the Charging Order final hearing. He explained the process of a Charging Order. It's not as automatic as I thought! We still can't afford one because I do not start working until 6 Feb. Payday is the last business day of the month,but we shall see.

Overall, we left his office feeling relieved. We also felt he was helpful, informative and trustworthy. We especially liked it when he said if we ever fell into arrears or any problems related to the IVA to let him know immediately and he will assist us the very best way possible. The important thing is, is to contact him *immediately*.

The only thing we did not know was that we have to pay £92 a year for a bond before the creditors meeting. After that the payment of the bond will come out of the monthly IVA amount.

With all the negative experiences posted about IPs I thought it only fair to report a positive experience to show there are good honest IPs out there.[:)]

Thank you all who have taken the time to answer my questions. This site was excellent for information and support during a very stressful time in my life. I shall continue to post with updates and to share the bit of knowledge I have gained from going through the experience of the IVA process.



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Post by MelanieGiles » Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:19 pm
Hi DebtDummy

Sounds like you had a good and informative meeting. I disagree with some of the points that your IP has made, but they may not be relevant to you. Serving members of HM Armed Forces and the Police are definately affected by bankruptcy - I should know I did 19 years in the Territorial Army!

I don't know why it is taking 4-6 weeks for a creditors meeting date, but perhaps he is delaying this until you start work and are earning to ensure you can afford to make your payments. I am concerned when you say he "may" beat the Charging Order Hearing - the correct answer should be he "must" beat the Charging Order hearing.

The £92 you are paying is an insurance premium which he has to pay out to insure against him running away with your money - I do not joke we all have to pay these premiums. In my practice these are paid for initially by the firm, and then recovered from the estate when clients start paying, but I don't blame him for protecting his cashflow.

Good luck at the creditors meeting and let us know how you get on.

Regards, Melanie Giles, Insolvency Practitioner for over 20 years.
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Post by freelili » Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:42 pm
I WISH YOU BOTH EVERY SUCESS WITH YOUR IVA DD.

YOUR POSTS ARE BRILLIANT, IT MUST BE REALLY HARD HEARING ALL THAT STUFF AND FEARING IT ALL, KNOWING ITS THE ONLY WAY. THANK HEAVENS YOU HAVE GOT A GOOD IP. PERSONALLY I THINK BAD ONES SHOULD BE SHOT, BUT I HAVE BEEN FEELING A LITTLE EXTREME LATELY. I MEAN PEOPLE ARE SO VUNERABLE AT THIS STRESSFUL TIME, DONT YOU THINK?

I ALSO THINK ITS GREAT TO HAVE SOME GOOD IP'S/EXPERTS WILLING TO HELP ON THIS SITE, FOR FREE.

THANKS EVERYONE

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Post by scaredkez » Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:47 pm
hi DD glad the meeting went well and hope you are feeling better about your situation, i think they all tell you there is no guarentee that it will be accepted as they have to cover themselves if it didn't so wouldn't worry about that, the way your IP described what would happen to either of you should one get accepted and the other not was what i was asking the other day and he has made it a lot clearer in the way he has explained it to you (for me).
i really do hope it all works out for you, good luck in your new job.
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Post by Skippy » Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:48 pm
I have recently looked into joining the police and they definitely don't accept undischarged bankrupts.

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Post by Dominic » Wed Jan 24, 2007 9:02 pm
I know a lot of public sector bodies will not employ an undischaged bankrupt but if you work for them already an lot will keep an employee on but in a role that does not involve administering financial affairs, holding budgets or taking decisions on paynebts.
 
 

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Post by DebtDummy » Thu Jan 25, 2007 3:42 am
Yes, the case manager did say it had to be discharged in order to become a police officer, but if already employed by the military or the police force and a bankruptcy is sought and granted, today, it would not cause a problem because some constabulary (?) signed a document that applies to all employed police officers and they can't be sacked for petitioning for a BR. He did continue by saying he would loose his employment if he petitioned for a BR, but not if he did an IVA.

I also remember him saying one or maybe both of those professions having to see a Welfare Officer(?) first or something like that to discuss their financial hardship.

Sorry, that's all I can recollect about BR and those two professions. Oh yes! There are a certain amount of years one has to wait from being discharged before applying to work in those professions if one did a BR.

I would have paid better attention if I or my hubby were in one of the professions mentioned. But MelanieGiles does say above that they are definately effected by it. So, they must be.

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