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Post by headbanger » Sun Aug 14, 2016 9:46 pm
Is this example correct

150000 value of house
127500 85% LVT
90000 O/S Mortgage
27800 O/S Secured loan

127500
90000 minus
27800 minus
= 9700 equity

Wife owns half the house and isn't in iva
9700 x 50% = 4850

Therefore in this example less than £5000 so thus ending iva at 60 months
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Post by Foggy » Sun Aug 14, 2016 10:28 pm
Yes, that is how PJG and many others would calculate it -- but some firms are interpreting it differently ( and, in many cases it can be read this way) that the equity is calculated at market value, so
150,000, minus secured lending = 32, 200 equity divided by 2, gives your share at 16,100. Then they take 85% of this = 13,685

This is brought about by conflicting clauses in some proposals where it state that 85% of available equity shall be released. This has been challenged and at least one IP has backed down. The saving grace in others has been the inclusion of reference to the method to be used --- from memory Annex 7 of the terms and conditions. I am sure someone will correct me if I am wrong. That annex details the method as that you used earlier.
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Post by headbanger » Mon Aug 15, 2016 9:04 am
Just looked at my iva papers and I'll update thread how they worked out current (starting) equity calculation as it's different again.

Will do that later after work
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Post by Lisa Thomas » Mon Aug 15, 2016 10:45 am
You can always email us your figures direct to look at.

I have seen proposals where the calculations and LTV statements were inconsistent and conflicting.
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Post by headbanger » Mon Aug 15, 2016 11:31 am
Can I email from this site. Is there a button

Thanks
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Post by Lisa Thomas » Mon Aug 15, 2016 12:12 pm
Not that I am aware of. Lisa@nevilleco.co.uk
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Post by kallis3 » Mon Aug 15, 2016 12:59 pm
Headbanger - email was disabled a long time ago due to the amount of spam it generated.
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Post by headbanger » Tue Aug 30, 2016 6:47 pm
Update- I'm off work this week and thought I would ring a few estate agents to come and do a quick sale valuation rather than a forced sale one. Thought I would ring Credit Fix first to see if they had an update if they had calculated my equity (probably using zoopla) the lady put me on hold to speak to a manager and then came back and said. The equity release team have worked out I have less than 5k equity and my last payment will be November this year. I was totally gobsmacked. I thought I would have to put up a fight to prove my house price. My case has been sent to completion team. Holy smoke. I'm on cloud nine. Still not counting my chickens until I get it in writing.

What happens in the completion stage. Do they meet with the creditors or something.
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Post by kallis3 » Tue Aug 30, 2016 6:56 pm
Wow! That is really brilliant!

If it is just going for completion then that will be it and when you make that final payment they will sort out the completion letter.
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Post by headbanger » Tue Aug 30, 2016 7:06 pm
Do they have to go back to all the creditors to show its completed and can't get equity release or is it just completion internally at CF and creditors take its finished on their word. Then dish out money.
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Post by recovering » Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:29 pm
So you didn't have to get a valuation yourself?
 
 

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Post by headbanger » Wed Aug 31, 2016 6:56 am
No I didn't need to get a valuation. You could have knocked me over with a feather. I sent settlement figure for secured loan and mortgage statement and they must have used the likes of zoopla

I was dreading getting valuations and potentially having to get mortgage refusals as I know I was borderline on house value for calculations to work in my favour
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Post by kallis3 » Wed Aug 31, 2016 8:36 am
As far as I am aware they will just wrap it all up now and dish the money out.
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Post by recovering » Wed Aug 31, 2016 9:18 am
I am dreading getting the re-mortgage rejections as I know I have equity. I was asked for last Mortgage statement and told if they needed anything else they would contact me. So pleased for you Headbanger!!
 
 

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Post by headbanger » Wed Aug 31, 2016 9:25 am
Who are you with Recovering
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