george osbournes budget

[briggadeen]

[quote]Originally posted by flowerpot

Thank-you for the messages about 'not all on benefits are scroungers', its just that I would truly like to be well enough to get on an work, but life has dealt me health problems and now i have to muddle through and hope for to be fixed.

Flowerpot I think it was me who used the word 'scrounger'. I did not mean it to cause offence to anyone that actually needs a benefit. It was directed towards those who choose not to work. My own father recieves DLA because of health issues - this I agree with.

I'm merely referring to single mothers who have a house full of children and the best of furniture, gadgets and a holiday each year. I would love this lifestyle. Unfortunately having to work so hard and having nothing to show for it because I have to pay tax, national insurance, rates. All that they pay a big fat ZERO

[Skippy]

I'm not sure why I wouldn't have a job and I don't have any savings anyway.

Keepingmyheadabovewater, have you posted on this forum before? I seem to recognise you from either this or another forum and I'm not sure which...

[kallis3]

It will never happen as some banks will always keep going, and new ones will spring up to take the place of any that go to the wall.

[Keepingmyheadabovewater]

Doesn't matter who would have been in power - they would have had to have done the same. The problems were caused by the borrowing of the government over the past 13 years.

hi
jan i agree with you on the borrowing.
if the torys had been in powerr they would have let the banks go and called in the IMF to get aid and money from them.england would have gone bust.it the greed of the banks and workers that cause a hell of a lot of this mess

[phil732]

God help us if lab get back in skippy, that would spell real disaster, but I get the impression that the majority of people in the Uk understand and respect the cuts required to get us back on track and yes it will be painful, but as we all know the borrowing couldnt carry on I for one think Mr Cameron is the right person to get us out of the huge debt.

[kallis3]

Totally with you Phil.

Wouldn't touch Labour with a ten foot barge pole at the moment.

[Skippy]

I agree Phil. I've never voted Labour and never will!

[phil732]

Same here Skippy I,ve neva voted labour and never will either, I just dont like what they stand for, they should of saved ££ and not spent it like its going out of fashion. Dave is young and ambitious and he really loves his country, totally the opposite to brown and co.

[kallis3]

I will confess to having voted Labour in the past, but not this time.

[phil732]

Great kallis, proud of ya.

[kallis3]

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[PELDER]

An entertaining topic this with everyone having their say but I think Osborne let the banks off lightly as a 2 billion pound annual tax levy on the banks is a piffling amount considering the damage they have done, and collectively those smug bankers must be laughing all the way to the ....... well - to their next big bonuses for sure! Fact is, analysts say that this budget is a good outcome for the banks,and anybody who views Michael Moore's excellent new documentary "Capitalism - A Love Story" will be reminded of just how warped the world banking system is! For the record - I have no faith in politicians, nor the banks and I voted for the 'Independent' candidate at the last election because I found him to be honest - too honest to be elected!!

[sus65]

I'm proud to say I'm a Labour supporter, always have been and always will be......but each to our own, would be a boring old world if we all thought the same.

I really don't see how Labour are to blame for the predicament we find ourselves in now. We are in GLOBAL recession not just a national one. If the economy starts to shrink again, as it will undoubtedly do, as now under the new cuts the man in the street will have less money to spend - resulting in less income for small businesses and thus job cuts and pay freezes in the private sector.....a never ending circle. Yes cuts are needed, but as a nation we need to get back on our feet first, as we were doing under Labour.

You only have to look at the problems in Greece and Spain, their economies have been severely hit.

Just my take on things, for what it's worth

Sus

[kallis3]

Quite right, we do all think differently.

Have to say that I do think the last government were responsible for a lot of our problems as they massively overspent and cuts are necessary, regardless of who is in power.

The same for Greece and Portugal.

I'm just happy we don't have the Euro.

[animaleyes76]

What a great post to bring out how people feel. what i would like to say is for ten years we had growth and money in this country. in a short period of time we had to dig deep and pump money into banks etc. everyone one them have told lies and changed what they promised, but i do agree something has to be done. but lets not blame it on immirgration if they put into the system then you cant have a problem its the one who come here wanting hand outs what need dealing with.ps 60% of our gold was sold off cheap great choice labour thank god you have gone and you never get into power to ruin this great country.

hi there i have to say if you blame labour than you are wrong for this mess out of this debt.its the banks and the experts are saying 60% GDP is the banks and the rest is made up on other projects that keep people in work .

But the thing is that 40% was still nearly bigger than any debt/deficit every created, so even before the banking crisis the country was in big trouble.

As for "other projects that keep people in work" are you for real? That's exactly what got us into this situation. Labour created around 600000 public sector jobs that weren't necessary for it to function properly. It was simply bending over for their union paymasters. Look up PFI and see the legacy and debt that will have to be paid for by many generations. It's a disgrace.

What you're basically saying is that the government should subsidise job creation, which is madness. If you know anything about economics you would know that on the whole it is the private sector creates new jobs.

The public sector is there to provide the services required by the state and population, not to be used as a populist job creation scheme.

Just do a bit of research. Check the treasury website, the hmrc webiste. All the statistics are there, and all of them show that the country was massively in trouble before the banking crisis. You can't deny the figures published by the very goverment that caused them.

Next you'll be telling me next that Gordon Brown was the best chancellor ever. It was DESPITE him, not because of him that we had low interest rates for so many years, and even that was based on an economy of debt. Had we not spent on credit cards etc the country would have gone belly up about 2-3 years before it did.

This isn't even about politics, it's about economics. It really annoys me when people can't be bothered to even question the rhetoric they hear and believe everything they are told, despite having the information to prove otherwise.

Sorry, cos i know i've just gone off on one for the second time in two days.