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Post by Sinking Fast » Mon May 17, 2010 8:14 pm
Hi all,

We are in the process of drawing up our IVA proposal, and are looking at a dividend of 11p in the pound. Having discussed with my partner, we have done some chopping and changing and are now at 14p in the pound.

We owe to creditors just over £130k. We have been advised by our IP, that this could be rejected!!

My question is does 14p sound too low, for creditors to accept?

Is their any hard and fast rule as to how low a dividend creditors will accept?

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Post by Cath » Mon May 17, 2010 8:18 pm
I have seen on some of the reviews on www.iva.com some low dividends, particularly David Mond's company.

I hope you haven't chopped and changed too much such that you won't be able to have a decent life on the allowances.

I think mine was 28p but it would have been more like 21p if I hadn't of had some inheritance money to put forward.

Good luck mate. x
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Post by Cath » Mon May 17, 2010 8:19 pm
And it's probably more than creditors would get in BR.
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Post by Sinking Fast » Mon May 17, 2010 8:45 pm
Thanks all for your replies.

In BR our creditors would get nil. Helen; yes we are at the lowest, in terms of cuts to expenditure, that we can get to. 14p is really tight, but we are sure manageable.

Failing that we will go BR. We have high mortgage costs / second charge costs, and were advised that creditors may well look at this, and ask that we look at renting, which really defies the whole point and objective of an IVA.

If we are to surrender our property, then we will go BR for sure. We are hoping to propose an IVA so as to payback as much as we can afford to our creditors.
If we go BR then our unsecured creditors lose out, and so do our mortgage and secured loan creditors - so no one gets anything.

Cath; you mention David Mond - who does he work for?

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Post by kallis3 » Mon May 17, 2010 8:55 pm
He's the CEO of Cleardebt.
Sharing from experiences of dealing with debt
The greatness of a man is not in how much wealth he acquires, but in his integrity and his ability to affect those around him positively.
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Post by Sinking Fast » Mon May 17, 2010 8:59 pm
Thanks Kallis.
 
 

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Post by relieved33 » Mon May 17, 2010 9:07 pm
we're with David Mond through cleardebt and although our dividend wasn't that low they have always been very good with us over the past year including lowering our monthly payments with other half's car blew up to enable us to lease a car. I would recommend them in a heart beat.
 
 

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Post by DEBTFREEJAN2015 » Mon May 17, 2010 9:28 pm
Were with MC CAMBRIDGE & DUFFY, and they told us what it would be......we had £70,000 in debt and payed 25p in the pound!!!!!

Hopw this helps, good luck [:)]
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Post by Shining » Mon May 17, 2010 9:39 pm
I'm assuming you've shopped around and spoken to a few companies? Always take case specific advice of at least 2 if not 3. A good IP wouldn't put a proposal forward that s/he wasn't certain was the best offer on the table and feel confident with it. x
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Post by eleni » Mon May 17, 2010 9:47 pm
we were in a bit more debt than yourselfs. As we are self employed we had to go for a R3 meeting with our IP. we were also told that it was touch and go if it would be accepted or not. what were were offering was 11p for an IVA against 9p BR.
we came away from the meeting very worried that it would not be accepted, but thankfully it was and our first payment to the IVA left our account today
I hope this has been of some comfort to you
 
 

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Post by MelanieGiles » Mon May 17, 2010 9:51 pm
A low dividend is never a real problem, although you do have to be realistic and ensure that the repayment represents a sensible position for creditors. The problem arises when you have a low dividend and high expediture in excess of creditor guideines - in which case IPs have to advise that the proposals may not be acceptable.
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Post by Sinking Fast » Mon May 17, 2010 9:55 pm
Glad it worked out for you sweet.

We are currently talking to a very reputable IP, hence the reason why we are trying our damn hardest to offer the best dividend possible, without running the risk of having to go BR 9 months down the line, because we have disillusioned ourselves.

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we were in a bit more debt than yourselfs. As we are self employed we had to go for a R3 meeting with our IP. we were also told that it was touch and go if it would be accepted or not. what were were offering was 11p for an IVA against 9p BR.
we came away from the meeting very worried that it would not be accepted, but thankfully it was and our first payment to the IVA left our account today
I hope this has been of some comfort to you
 
 

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Post by MelanieGiles » Mon May 17, 2010 10:02 pm
It is so important to make sure that the monthly payments are affordable not just for now but into the future as well. A little more time spent considering things now, will be time well invested in the long run.
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Post by Cath » Mon May 17, 2010 10:06 pm
Totally, I am trying to up my income for when the interest rates go up, it's swings and roundabouts though.
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Post by Michael Peoples » Tue May 18, 2010 9:27 am
14p in the £ across £130,000 is over £18,000 returned to creditors. 40p in the £ across £30,000 of creditors is only £12,000 of a return. It is all relative and when the dividend is low on a large amount of debt there are no other alternatives rather than nothing in bankruptcy.

Good luck with the IVA but I see no problem with the dividend.
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