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JdM

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Post by JdM » Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:30 pm
Hi there
My partner has an IVA in place (it has been going for a year). Due to our debt, I was dismissed from my previous role with a Building Society for 'gross misconduct' and have therefore found it very difficult to find a job. Eventually someone took a chance but my salary has dropped around £4000 a year and our disposable income is now less than the IVA amount. We are struggling but we are determined to get this sorted - so much that my shoes for work have a massive hole in the bottom and have done for the past 3 weeks! What effect is this going to have on our IVA annual assessment? I am really worried.....
 
 

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Post by marsha1 » Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:33 pm
Im sure an expert will be along shortly to advise you. I hope you manage to get something sorted out. Good luck
 
 

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Post by MelanieGiles » Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:38 pm
Well this particular expert is insensed to hear that someone has lost their job due to taking a responsible attitude to dealing with their debts. Shame on your former employer for having such a prejudicial view.

If you are stuggling to make the repayments, which is clear from the reduction in your salary, then you should approach your IP to see if the payments can be reduced. It may be possible to reduce by up to 15% without the agreement of creditors, providing that you agree to extend the IVA into a final year to make up the difference.

And if I were your IP I would be telling you to deduct the price of a decent pair of work shoes from your next IVA payment! I am sure that if you contact them they will be keen to help you get this sorted and back on track. Good luck and let us know how you get on.
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Post by Adam Davies » Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:38 pm
Hi Jdm and welcome.
At your annual review you will be asked to fill in a new income and expenditure form.This will show that your disposible income has dropped.You can then ask your IP to hold a variation meeting and ask for your payments to be reduced.
In the meantime ask your IP for a one month payment break so that you can purchase essential items.
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Post by Lisa2009 » Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:39 pm
You need to phone your IP as soon as possible to see what he/she says about it.

It could be that a creditors meeting could be called to ask for a reduction in your payments.
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Post by johnh » Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:16 am
I agree with Melanie. There can't be many major employers who would interpret being in debt as gross misconduct and warrant summary dismissal and have this written into their disciplinary procedures. If your employer did indeed follow their own procedures correctly then shame on them for having such a draconian attitude; if they didn't then you have a prima facie case for wrongful dismissal. I hope that you got proper advice at the time from your union or from an employment lawyer.
 
 

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Post by creditcrunched » Thu Nov 06, 2008 1:18 pm
shocking treatment!!!!!!! get onto your ip as soon as possible help is needed dont be fobbed off[:(!]
 
 

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Post by kallis3 » Thu Nov 06, 2008 5:12 pm
How awful! It does annoy me that people get penalised for doing the responsible thing about their debts. It's the ones who are still frantically trying to dig themseves out of a hole who have the problems.

I would certainly see if I could take it further if it were me.
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Post by Maz » Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:15 pm
Hi Jdm

I think that been dismissed from your job for debts is absolutely disgusting! How can this company class that as 'gross misconduct' exactly? Being in debt can happen to anyone for various reasons. oh it makes me so mad, and especially when you are trying to pay what you can back etc. I remember reading on here also about someone else this happened to.

I hope you can sort something out soon.

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Post by Norm » Thu Nov 06, 2008 8:26 pm
JdM wrote:

Hi there
My partner has an IVA in place (it has been going for a year). Due to our debt, I was dismissed from my previous role with a Building Society for 'gross misconduct' and have therefore found it very difficult to find a job. Eventually someone took a chance but my salary has dropped around £4000 a year and our disposable income is now less than the IVA amount. We are struggling but we are determined to get this sorted - so much that my shoes for work have a massive hole in the bottom and have done for the past 3 weeks! What effect is this going to have on our IVA annual assessment? I am really worried.....

Blimey this has worried me when I read it, I work for a building society and am just in the process of setting up aDMP, was it to do with fit and proper status or was it because you didn't tell them and they found out?
 
 

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Post by David Mond » Thu Nov 06, 2008 8:33 pm
This is outrageous - being dismissed for gross misconduct in the circumstances outlined is ridiculous. Have you considered taking action against them through a claim to an Industrial Tribunal. There are many firms of solicitors that would take your case on a no fee basis. Can you give us a few more facts please?
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