IVA options and failure options

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Post by fredjones » Thu Apr 16, 2009 1:14 pm
I am 3 years into an IVA with Blair Endersby. I missed 2 months payments in the first year because I was between jobs so my monthly payments were increased from 245 to 311 and an extra 2 years was added onto the length of my IVA to cover the payments I missed.

BE now tell me they have added another 2 years onto the length of my IVA and are increasing the amount of my monthly payments from 311 to 375 a month for the final 3 years of my IVA.

The debt I owed to my creditors 3 years ago was only just 15k, in the 3 years I’ve been in the IVA only about 1500 (from the 4000 I have paid) has been paid to the creditors, if that.

I have now been in steady employment for over 2 years and feel I could have paid my creditors off comfortably a long time ago without the IVA.

What options do I have other than carrying on with the IVA for another 4 years?! If the IVA fails will I be able to go back to my creditors and arrange a payment plan directly to them and what fees would I need to pay Blair Endersby? BE have told me over the phone I would owe them over 5 thousand in fees if the IVA fails, I can’t see how that can be so!?

Any help or guidance you can give me will be very much appreciated.[:)]
 
 

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Post by rayb » Thu Apr 16, 2009 1:22 pm
Hi,

This sounds very wrong to me. The maximum an IVA can run for is 6 years I believe and that is only if you are a home owner and are unable to re-mortgage to provide the equity in year 4.

If you go on to http://www.insolvency-service.co.uk/newipsearch.htm and search for your IP, I would speak to them direct. (Skip the Monkey and speak to the Organ Grinder.

Alternatively Blair Endersby do post on here so you may get a reply from them
 
 

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Post by plasticdaft » Thu Apr 16, 2009 1:25 pm
How can they add 2 years on to an IVA for you missing 2 months payments in year one if you had your payments upped to make up the difference?
Check what it says on your original paperwork regarding how long the IVA can run for. BE post on the forum so you may get some joy directly from them.
It may also help to talk directly to your IP not to one of his/her monkeys as sometimes they dont know what they are talking about!!
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Post by Adam Davies » Thu Apr 16, 2009 1:26 pm
Hi
To be fair IVAs can run for many years although something doesn't seem correct about yours. Why has the IVA extended by two years ?
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Post by fredjones » Thu Apr 16, 2009 1:51 pm
Hi thanks for the quick replies.

That is what believed would be the case from the start that the IVA would last for 5 years and after that time the remaining debts owed to the creditors would be written off and I would be able to wrap up any payments i owed to BE then. When I asked BE about where the extra money was going from increasing my monthly contributions from 245 to 311 the customer services guy said this money had gone towards the final amount and they had not used it to cover any payments I had missed. This IVA just seems to be going on and on and not actually getting me anywhere. Do I just keep blindly paying BE what they ask for for years and hope one day it ends or is there another option?

Also in reply to the first comment I am not a homeowner and do not have any assets.

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Post by rayb » Thu Apr 16, 2009 1:53 pm
Hi,

As I said previously you need to speak to your IP directly. Follow the link I posted and when you tap in the Companies name it will bring up the IP's name
 
 

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Post by MelanieGiles » Fri Apr 17, 2009 12:21 am
Are you sure you are talking about an extension of years rather than months? If so, there is something radically wrong about your IVA and you do need to get your IP to confirm to you exactly why it is being extended and under whose authority.
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Post by David Mond » Fri Apr 17, 2009 1:03 am
Fredjones - £245 for 5 years equals £14,700. Missing 2 payments of £245 amounts to £490. Increasing your monthly contribution by £65 (£311 - £245) would mean that you would have caught up after 7.5 months.

I cannot see why your IVA should be extended by 2 years let alone going over 5 years.

Please write to your IP setting this out. It is irrelevant what fees they have taken as that was agreed by creditors at the time of the approval.

By the way - what did you proposal and/or and modifications say on this (if anything)?

I will also try and get you a response from them.
Regards, David Mond, Insolvency Practitioner for over 46 years. Personal Insolvency Practitioner of the year 2012, Personal Insolvency Practitioner of the year finalist 2013 & 2014 awarded by Insolvency & Rescue Magazine and 2015 finalist for Personal Insolvency Firm of the Year.
 
 

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Post by Nick Pearson » Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:16 am
Hi Fred

Can you contact Blair Endersby, part of the Paymex Group, asap so we can discuss the issues you have raised?

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Post by fredjones » Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:21 am
I looked through the original paperwork for my IVA last night. The total amount I owed to creditors when I first contacted my IP was calculated by BE to be £17500...The total amount BE are asking me to pay up until 2013 will amount to around £21000 in total. Is this correct that I will have to pay over the full amount I owed to my creditors and another £3-4 thousand in fees to BE?

How is the IVA helping me atall if this is the case? except for getting the creditors off my back

I have contacted my IP, Mr James Kaye directly but am waiting for him to get back to me.

Its all soo confusing!!
 
 

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Post by MelanieGiles » Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:24 am
You need to contact Nick Pearson in line with his previous post. We cannot give you case specific advice on the forum sorry.
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Post by fredjones » Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:40 am
I have contacted my Insolvency Practitioner at Blair Endersby and am awaiting a reply.

I tried to discuss the situation with an advisor at BE the last time I contacted them by telephone but all he had to say was that I would owe them over £5000 in fees if my IVA were to fail, i was £200 in arrears, had no advice or knowledge of my case and was only interested in demanding I pay higher monthly payments. I have lost any trust or faith I had in BE.

I'll let you know what reply I receive from BE.

Thank you for your comments.

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Post by Blair Endersby » Fri Apr 17, 2009 12:28 pm
James Kaye is out of the office today. Please contact us via info@blairendersby.co.uk giving your name and account number. We will then call you back to clarify your situation.
 
 

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Post by LoneRanger » Fri Apr 17, 2009 12:40 pm
Something doesnt sound right. From reviews I have read on iva.com there not a company i would wish to approach to prospose an IVA for me.

Goodluck with it and I hope you can get it resolved asap.
Steve.

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