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Post by freelili » Sat Nov 22, 2008 2:31 pm
No I wasnt offended and know where youre coming from.

I get really annoyed when I see realy young girls swearing at their children too, or hitting them.

They have been given the gift of a perfect child but dont seem to care, anyone of us would take offence if another just swore at us for nothing or doing something that we didnt understand so why do some treat their children as less than human? Look at that poor baby P and poor little Shannon who was used by her parents to obtain money? Its so disgusting how some children are treated and abused.

I have overcome so many hurdles in my life having one child after another diagnosed with a life long disability, I have also lost a child, so to me to take lovely children and babies for granted annoys me so much.

I am by no means perfect either and have often thought, why me? At the other end of the spectrum though I am grateful for the skills and ability I have been blessed with to cope.

Children are a gift and a blessing and should not be treated as a ticket for benefits or a house, to be abuse and taken for granted and used to make money.
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Post by Skippy » Sat Nov 22, 2008 2:45 pm
Well said Lily. As you know I haven't got children, but the stories about Baby P and Shannon sicken me. Those parents don't love their children, so why have them?

Going back the original post about working, I know that not everyone can work - my mum and dad lived on benefits for most of my life as my dad was disabled and mum was his carer. They had to fight for everything and if mum was granted a benefit the money was deducted from dads. That's why the 'won't works' who get everything handed to them on a plate but still aren't grateful wind me up so much. As far as I'm concerned the 'can't works' are entitled to so much more than they get.
 
 

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Post by drowning-mummy » Wed Nov 26, 2008 11:40 pm
I agree that they should be investigated as to why they wont work, but not when the child is aged 12, it should be 4!
I am a lone-parent to a 3 year old and an 11 month old, but I still go to work (and I only earn £900pm). I may not have as much disposable dosh as my friend who 'wont' work, but in the long run I will be the one who is better off.
The government offers so much help now with childcare costs and tax credits, its a scandal that some still use being a mother as an excuse not to work.
I'm teaching my girls morals and good life ethics. I hate to say this but the difference between my children and hers is astounding.
Not saying thats the case for everyone, but is certainly a factor in this scenario.

Swans girl. You are so brave to have a baby at 15, I really admire you. I'm sure your children are as grounded and as lovely as you are.
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Post by Julie » Thu Nov 27, 2008 7:01 pm
Ah thanks DM - I'm not sure my parents thought I was brave [:I]- they were absolutely mortified at the time, but the support I had and still have from them and all my family is immense.

You will be so glad you have chosen to work and your children will thank you for it in the end, believe me. I'm so proud of how my girls have turned out and yes I take the credit [:D]

I know there are some pple who can't work, its the ones who won't work that get to me, not just lone parents either.

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Post by Lisa2009 » Thu Nov 27, 2008 9:23 pm
Totally off subject.........i read on the internet that baby P was murdered last year.
Why take so long for the government to decide "this must never be allowed to happen again"
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Post by kallis3 » Thu Nov 27, 2008 9:32 pm
The trouble is though Mrs S., it will happen again. It was never supposed to happen again after Victoria Climbie.

You'll never stop it.
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Post by Lisa2009 » Thu Nov 27, 2008 9:36 pm
Its an absolute disgrace and i think (my opinion only you understand) that everybody involved in his care and well being is as guilty as those who killed him.

It really makes my blood boil
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Post by kallis3 » Thu Nov 27, 2008 9:40 pm
I agree. Heads should have rolled as soon as it was discovered. I'll bet most people will keep their jobs though!
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Post by kallis3 » Thu Nov 27, 2008 10:34 pm
It's nice to know that the stuff in your house is paid for, and not likely to be repossessed when default on it!
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Post by Skippy » Fri Nov 28, 2008 8:44 am
I do have a problem with the way this government tries to force women to work though. Most of my friends with children are stay at home mums - their husbands work and they are lucky enough to be able to afford to stay at home. The government's attitude seems to be that if you are a woman who chooses to be a 'homemaker' there is something wrong with you.

There should be a choice - if you can afford to stay at home and choose to do so you shouldn't be made to feel as if you ought to be at work, but it shouldn't be a career choice to live off benefits.
 
 

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Post by kallis3 » Fri Nov 28, 2008 9:42 am
I agree Skip, but then I don't think the government have a problem with that, after all, if you can afford to stay at home, you won't be claiming benefits other than child benefit and tax credits.

It's a very lucrative career being a stay at home mum on handouts.
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Post by animaleyes76 » Fri Nov 28, 2008 10:53 am
What makes it worse is the way they do it too.

Deduct tax then set up another agency to make tax credits to pay it back!!

Why not just change people's tax codes and bingo.. Job done, saving millions..

Nope, too easy. I wouldn't even say it was just stay home mums.

There are around 1,200,000 people out of the offical unemployment figures that have been there for at LEAST 11 years and probably longer.

I don't know why I even bother to work anymore. No disrespect to people with children, but when did you last have a budget that did anything for single people. Nope, "family this, family that". The single population is the fastest growing (and shafted) part ofthe country.

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Post by louiseh » Fri Nov 28, 2008 4:06 pm
Have to agrree with the last post, couple no children, no help, no benifits. Budgets just pi** me off. It's just, I pay more so some lazy b*****ds can have 6 kids and live off the state for the rest of their lives. I do wonder who's the mug sometimes.
 
 

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Post by kallis3 » Fri Nov 28, 2008 4:11 pm
I've worked since I left school - not been unemployed at all, fortunately! That's why it annoys me that people who can work, but just don't want to, get paid to sit at at home. The DWP always says that it is going to do something about that - I'm still waiting for them to take some action!

There's nothing I'd like more, but it will have to wait until retirement!
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Post by Skippy » Fri Nov 28, 2008 4:12 pm
Same as us Louise. I get cross when Brown is talking about helping hard working families - what about hard working couples?
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