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Post by cat 1 » Sun Aug 31, 2008 3:26 am
I think having debt, IVA etc is a very lonely place to be.Hence, this forum is wonderful and supportive.I don't think I could do without it.Perhaps I'm worrying again as the annual review has just been sent off and we're waiting to here the results.It came early due to a huge rise in my electricity bill and I'm anticipating the same with the gas bill.I wish I had never heard of loans and credit cards.I will never use them again.I'm just so fed up of the pre occupastion with money and the lack of it and having to say no too often.Even hubby doesn't seem to understand the need to be frugal and he thinks I'm mean.He earns a lot less than me but our IVA's are interlocked.He pulls faces and sulks when I have to say no.Causing problems.I have just given my son another £70 for scate equipement and concert tickets.Why can't they see if I've done this then everybody else doesn't get a share as there is not enough.
Not sleeping again.I've just had yet another dream where an IVA plays a major part.
I wish my life away so it could all be over with.Don't get me wrong I want to pay it back etc but as stated I'm sick of thinking about it all.
I must look as though I cope alright as a friend who doesn't know about the IVA has asked to borrow £100 as she's in a vary stuck place.I can as it's a verys short term borrow and I've got standing orders going out later in the month.If onle she knew and if only family understood it's because of my meaness and frugality that we do anything at all.I'm sick of saying no and explaining why.
I've listened to people on here talking about full and finals.I think my report said no changes untill 24 months and I'm only 10 in to a 6 year IVA.I want to sell our house I think and make an offer.The idea was horrible when we were asked if I thought it was an option but now it's appealing .Aferall, it's getting very shabby as we never spend on it and I can't see a time in the near future when we'll be in a position to.Lots of paint and replacements needed.I wonder if renting would be easier.However, then I worry about landlords saying no to IVA and indeed my animals.What to do?
I did put in for a new job..not had interview yet but people are very hopeful that I will get it.Interview will be mid september now.This will earn me more eventually but will most likely have to pay more in to IVA so will not feel any better off for another 5 years.Feels like a lifetime away to me at the moment.
Tell me to buck up my ideas and not sound so self pitious.... I need a kick up the backside I think!
We just had some nights away in a caravan and I should have come back refreshed.All I could think of was I was using contingency money and now I wouldn't have any and feeling panicky all over again.Plus the caravan was very poor quality and wet.I have complained but it's done now and the money is used.
Ah well...I made my bed etc...
Talking of whch I should perhaps try to go back to sleep.
Thanks, as ever for listening
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Post by Shining » Sun Aug 31, 2008 5:41 am
Oh Cat1, hope you're ok? Reading your post I could have written it! My husband has to buy his own tools for work, which when we sorted out the IVA I never mentioned (how ridiculous am I?) not because I held the information back because I genuinely didn't think of it. These past few months he's had to replace a few things and I know his router is on it's last legs so that'll be before Christmas I'm guessing. Like you we've had a few days away in a caravan etc., I too feel down sometimes but do say no to my child, she's understanding which does help and it's never a definite 'no' it's always an explanation of why it's not and then sometimes how in time we can work toward it but it's a temporary 'no'.

I'm like you and IVA has taken over my life totally, 8 months in for us and I get so stressed over little things, I just wish I could go with the flow but no everything is an issue right now.

What I'd give to do a full and final as I have certainly learnt my lesson debt wise I know that, I just keep thinking, I'll have no equity anyway so might as well rent as I'll be 51 upon completion of IVA and so what is the ponit continuing with mortgage?

Good luck with your interview, I know one of our tutors has given her notice in this week so wonder if I could pick some of her hours up. Like a vulture aren't I? and that in itself makes me feel bad.

I think we're having natural feelings towards an IVA I think there is a period of high amongst acceptance and I know that I am on a proper low. There is so many things want doing here and I've not even got a functioning bathroom window can't open it and keep thinking we'll get one this month, etc., etc., but it just never happens there is always something else isn't there.

Chin up Cat1, I seriously empathise with you and would like to think I know how you feel xx
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Post by cat 1 » Sun Aug 31, 2008 8:31 am
thanks Lesley.You sound the way I feel.I wish I couold just forget it and get on.After all there is enough for the basics guarenteed, but it's the other things and I feel it's all my fault.I know logically it's not.I feel as though I'm alone with this, but again logically I'm not.Sometimes I catch myself in the day suddenly thinking, oh I haven't thought about my IVA forxxxxx amount of time.I'm certain I've got a form of post traumatic stress.Don't get me wrong i function well and usually sleep ok too but it's all back again right now.
Anyway, thanks for the reply.You're any early bird too?
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Post by angela18 » Sun Aug 31, 2008 9:05 am
I too often feel that way.. I've just had to replace tyres on my car and I know hubbys needs doing in the very near future.. we have not much left in the way of contingency and the way I feel at the moment, Magaluf maybe shelved.. got my spends from saving frantically but I feel guilty.. hubby says not to worry but I can't help it.

But hey ho.. life goes on and so must we!! Hope you feel better soon Cat xx
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Post by kallis3 » Sun Aug 31, 2008 9:10 am
Cat1 and Lesley, I know where you are coming from. I have been like that, but I am trying to be positive.

I do think of my IVA often, I love payday when another payment comes out. I have a long way to go, only 4 (soon to be 5)payments in, but it's all heading in the right direction. I love being able to pay cash for things.

I do hate all the emergency things that you haven't budgeted for (the dog yesterday and the shower head today), just when I thought I was doing ok.

I'm fortunate in that my hubby (also doing an IVA) knows exactly what the position is and doesn't spend and doesn't pull a face if he can't have anything.

I look on this as a solution to my debt problems. I can eat, I have a roof over my head, my health is not bad and I have the love and support of my extended family. I can live, albeit wthout the luxuries I love, but I can see the minutest pinprick of light at the end of the tunnel. I haven't had a holiday in 3 years, and no prospect of one for the next five.

I count myself lucky that I have this solution - this time last year I was permanently depressed and I have no one to blame but myself.

I would be lost without this forum, it's support, advice and funny stories.

Chins up girls - you are in a dark place at the moment, but just think how much worse things could have been.
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Post by angela18 » Sun Aug 31, 2008 9:33 am
sometimes when my friends are going out and its not local, they look at me really strangely when I say i'm not going as can't afford it!! I know a couple of them have more debt than we did/have.. My best friend thinks its odd as they have no debt.. her hubby works away so on good money and she also works.. mortgage for £20,000 from council house and a motibility car.. she doesn't know she's born.. but hey ho i'm not bitter [}:)][:(!][:o)]
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Post by Kazzy E » Sun Aug 31, 2008 9:54 am
Hi there ladies. I have just read your posts and have got really upset. Not because you've upset me in any way, but because I can so empathise with how you're feeling as I felt the same before my IVA. Last November, hubby and I knew we were on a slippery slope to losing everything, so we decided to put our house up for sale. Luckily it sold very quickly and we were frantically looking for something smaller and cheaper to buy when we took some financial advice from an FA who was attached to a local estate agent. The advice she gave us at the time, was not to bother buying again and to look at the rental market. She had seen the extent of our debts and with the state of the housing market and the looming economic crisis, she just advised us not to buy again. So on completion day of our sale, we moved into a rented property, 6 years old and immaculate inside.

In July, our 6 monthly contract was up for renewal, and because this was the month of our IVA approval, we felt sure that the estate agents would run another credit check, but they didn't. So we've just renewed, but for 12 months this time. We were lucky to be able to bring our dog with us, some landlords really don't mind, but you do have to be honest from the outset that you have a pet. All maintenance is done for us, we just phone up if anything is wrong, and they sort it with 48 hours. We have never looked back.

Like you, the IVA is on my mind daily and only one month in, we are keeping very tight control of our finances and also have to say 'no' to our son, who is also learning a big lesson by being less demanding. I also love paying by cash for everything and get a kick out of seeing the essential direct debits coming out of my account which has a credit balance. At one time a couple of years ago, hubby and I were living on a £2600 overdraft. We didn't even earn that a month, so were always in deficet. So all in all, although things are very tight, and I dread emergencies (we have already had two, washing machine and a speeding ticket!) we are managing quite well and hope it continues.

So, I do know the place where you ladies are at at the moment, as I have been there oh so often myself, but in my heart I know things will get better for you. You are doing fantastically well, keeping things in control for your families and keep your heads above water, and as long as you keep treading that water, you won't sink, and before long your IVA's will be paid. We will (and already have) have learnt a huge lesson, and I think we are in a way, the lucky ones who've been give that wonderful chance to start again.

Best of luck hunnii's, I promise things will get better soon.

All the best, Kazzy x
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Post by moretolife » Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:00 am
everyone who can post on this thread will all have similar feelings...we are all human and we are all at the mercy...sometimes ....of our emotions....and as such we can only "go with the flow"....
one of the biggest things ...and dare i say ...the most exciting ...thing i am learning from this IVA journey.....is to "take the scenic route"...let me explain just a wee bit as i may blog on it later...
when you are on a journey...say from london to edinburgh....and in a hurry....you just zip up the m4 ...m23...m1 ...a1...or whatever the sat nav may tell you....A to B in shortest possible way.....but sometimes if you arent in a hurry you may decide to meander...stop off at various places....and see the countryside...visit the wee towns...look at a few beaches....hills...enjoy the views.....get caught in the road works...have a coffee....watch the world go by ...see a herd of cows....chat to the locals...have a pub meal....stay overnight in an 18th century pub....get lost and have to turn back up a one way country road....this i call "taking the scenic route"
in the end we still get from london to edinburgh....but it is a much richer route to take...we see much more...we learn much more...we meet different people along the way...we exchange life and values and culture and ideas much more...we may cry a bit more and even laugh a bit more...we may see and experience some sad times and some very distressing times...but we will hopefully deal with these in a much more sane way...cos we HAVE THE TIME..
lets face it...5 years is a long time...lets not rush it...lets meander a bit...lets learn ..and see ...and experience the fullest range of emotions and life lessons we can...i can guess we will still arrive at our destination..BUT we will be hugely different people from when we first set out..so..."take the scenic route" and see what happens..

this is not meant in way to negate the way you may be feeling...just a different perspective...i hope it is read in the spirit it is written....with huge empathy cos i sometimes go where you are now too..that "dark place" has a seat reserved with my name on it too.!!LOL.
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Post by Kazzy E » Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:06 am
Goodness TOL, have you got your literary hat on today?? [:D] That was a genius overview of the journey we all take, and so excellently explained. Well done and thank you, Kazzy x
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Post by Til » Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:11 am
Wow TOL - amazing thank you - I feel the same way ut you put it so well. I have a reserved seat in the dark place too but try to avoid visiting if I can [:I]
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Post by kallis3 » Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:18 am
I reckon TOL should write a book!!!!!!! Her posts and blogs are so good, and so true.

I never thought of it quite like that before!

I think we all have seats in the 'dark place'. I haven't been there since my IVA was approved, hopefully won't go there again, but - 'never say never'.
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Post by Til » Sun Aug 31, 2008 11:35 am
Definitely Kallis TOL has talent... Yeah think most of us have reserved seats but lets hope the place is getting emptier the more people come on hear - I know my seat hasn't been used since I found this place and all of you guys - thank you tonnes for that! [:I]
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Post by Shining » Sun Aug 31, 2008 12:28 pm
Cat1, unfortunately I never sleep, I'd been up since 3.30am, done my washing,tidied up, tried on my outfit for work on Wednesday (big day for dignitries), don't hoover or anything but do do lots of things that don't require noise or too much of it!

I went back to bed at 7am and slept till 9 and just got back now from taking the dog for a walk! We are all on the same journey all at varying levels and I'm sure we'll all complete the journey. All the best Cat1, keep plodding on alongside me and we'll get there.
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Post by Kazzy E » Sun Aug 31, 2008 1:43 pm
That's the spirit Lesley, onwards and upwards. Good luck hun. K x
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Post by Julie » Sun Aug 31, 2008 3:23 pm
Hi all, please don't take this the wrong way, but I'm glad you all have these feelings. I have them too so at least I know I'm normal.

There have been a few posts on here lately about how debt affects our emotions and as TOL so brilliantly put it - it really is a journey. I'm like Lesley, in that I don't sleep much and I spend a lot of my sleepless nights writing my thoughts and frustrations down on paper and shredding them!

To be honest I have never felt been on a high since having the IVA approved. Relieved, a solution had been found, but also worried from day 1 about how we'd get through 60 payments....we ONLY have 41 to go now.[:D]

Finding this forum has helped so much.I'm sure my hubby and those "in the know" are so fed up of me being frugal and pulling faces when anyone dares to produce a credit card in front of me, it so nice to be able to "talk" openly on here.

Keep your chins up everyone - we're all in this together. x
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