Loss of child Tax Credit from budget.

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Post by Skippy » Fri Oct 08, 2010 9:56 pm
Good to hear from you Phil - how are you?

Unfortunately I think you're right, things will get worse...
 
 

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Post by kallis3 » Fri Oct 08, 2010 9:57 pm
Hi Phil, I'm fine thanks. You ok?

I echo your sentiments entirely.
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Post by phil732 » Fri Oct 08, 2010 10:08 pm
Hi Kallis and Skippy

Nice to hear from you again, ive been busy back and forth to London trying to sort out my chronic headaches, but other wise Im great Thanks, hope you are as well?
 
 

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Post by Broke of London » Fri Oct 08, 2010 10:15 pm
Unfortunately, there will always be people who find a way to abuse whatever system the govt puts in place...and then it costs us even more to investigate and prosecute. So it is the people who claim by the rules that will be penalised first...but this wouldn't change whatever cuts were proposed.

I have to say I agree with thecuts totally; the state should be a safety net and shouldn't be subsidising a lifestyle choice. I would rather child benefit be put to the NHS...I have a friend with advanced cancer who can't get the drugs that cured her the first time round because you only get one go. She didn't choose cancer; people choose to have children.
 
 

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Post by Skippy » Fri Oct 08, 2010 10:15 pm
I'm fine thanks, glad it's the weekend!

Are they making any progress with your headaches?
 
 

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Post by phil732 » Fri Oct 08, 2010 10:25 pm
They are fantastic at the hospital, we seem to be making progress but its quite slow, trying different medication etc, but its going ok. I see the site has changed?? when did this happen?

Broke, Im convinced the Blue team will address your concerns.
 
 

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Post by Broke of London » Fri Oct 08, 2010 10:52 pm
Hi Phil, I've been on all sorts for daily headaches and frequent migraines for years. They're tricky b*****s to treat aren't they!?! I have a lot of hope for this migraine gene tho. Which hospital do you go to?
 
 

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Post by baldy » Sat Oct 09, 2010 4:44 am
Hi, you know what makes me annoyed is that people keep saying that because someone earns 44,000 plus they can afford to lose the child benefit but what they dont understand is that these people who earn this sort of money pay a very large amount of tax and national insurance into the pot.So why should they not get it?

And what everybody seems to forget is that all the tax we pay into the pot pays for all those lazy sh*ts who dont put anything in and just take ,take, take.

Remember we need theses people to earn this money so that the goverment can collect the tax to pay for the people who are less well off.

You cannot have a country where everybody just takes loads out and puts nothing back in,like we have now.

What the goverment should do is put a cap on benefits lets say the average national yearly wage,for what a family can claim. And put a cap on the amount of children you can claim for ie, two adults and two children, then if you decide to have anymore kids then you are NOT going to get any more benefits for them.
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Post by leaKybrain » Sat Oct 09, 2010 4:58 pm
Baldy, blooming good point.
 
 

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Post by kallis3 » Sat Oct 09, 2010 5:34 pm
The goverment is supposed to be implementing baldy's final point with regard to the cap on benefits and I totally agree with it.
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Post by angelrainbow » Sat Oct 09, 2010 5:49 pm
baldy wrote:

Hi, you know what makes me annoyed is that people keep saying that because someone earns 44,000 plus they can afford to lose the child benefit but what they dont understand is that these people who earn this sort of money pay a very large amount of tax and national insurance into the pot.So why should they not get it?
I agree totally with this....Also, a family of two people earning over £22K each will keep the benefit AND pay less tax and NI. The cuts are very, very unfair. Means test by all means but do it fairly.
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Post by Skippy » Sat Oct 09, 2010 6:22 pm
If they are going to make £44k the cut off it should be £44k regardless of how it's made up.
 
 

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Post by baldy » Sat Oct 09, 2010 8:13 pm
Yeah, i feel you need to look at the combined household income, not split it . Trouble is you need to be able to implement it without opening a goverment dept which costs millions to try and work it out.

Maybe giving a family a family tax code so a family could earn say 55-60 Thou per year without losing their benefit.Yes i know people earn a lot less more but its crazy to begrudge people who work bl**dy hard to better them selves dont you think?

We also need to understand that our children will grow up working and paying their own taxes towards this country and this i think will far outweigh the amount of child benefit their parents will get while growing up.

I really do feel we as a great country need to start helping familys with bringing up our children properley with good values etc and i know thats very difficult when all their parents are doing is spending hour upon hours working and the goverment pooring the tax down the drain.

I think that will do for now!!!!!!!
 
 

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Post by Skippy » Sat Oct 09, 2010 10:05 pm
While I understand the need for children, as someone without a family, I have to say it would be nice if I could have something for a change as all I seem to do is work so that my taxes pay for other people, and the ones that need help are never the ones who get it!
 
 

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Post by leaKybrain » Sat Oct 09, 2010 11:23 pm
skippy a friend of mine has similar view. She can't have children and was only saying last week that she has never claimed anything and gets nothing. her hubby should hve claimed for disability but wouldn't cos he said 'I'm not a cripple' seems to think its charity if he claims something.

although we have had a few redundancies over the years there has only been one occasion when we claimed for thigns like eye test and spectacle voucher, dental and council tax rebate. Otherwise we hav always paid for everything.
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