Mortgage Going UP 400 pounds per month !!!

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Post by Tracie » Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:27 pm
Hi,

as the heading says, like a lot of people on here, we have just come to the end of a fixed rate mortgage and looking at a whopping increase of £400 per month.

This will cripple us and just isnt achievable.

We are 18 months into our IVA.

Our brokers is looking into options for us, but so far has not managed to find anything smaller than a £300 increase, and that's only by extending the years from 13 to 17.

In the event £300 is the best they can get, what are our optoins so far as approaching the IVA for some sort of reduction in monthly premium, is it likely to be agreed, or will we just fail and be declared bankrupt?

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Post by Lisa2009 » Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:31 pm
Could you not try the option of switching to interest only untill the end of your IVA to reduce the payments. I know the mortgage balance wont go down but the payments should.
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Post by Sadsack » Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:31 pm
Hi Tracie

I am not sure what the likely outcome is going to be. I think you would be best having a chat with your IP and putting your case to him/her.

I would also like to suggest that there are other brokers - 2 of which regularly post on here - that deal with adverse credit mortgages and may be able to find something better for you.

Don't give up just yet! Contact Leybridge and Welshboy and have a chat with them.

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Post by Jo Rolland » Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:31 pm
Hi Tracie,

It would all be dependable on what you can afford. How much is your surplus income prior to the increase in the mortgage that you are paying towards your IVA's?

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Post by Andrew Graveson » Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:39 pm
Hi Tracie,
It's a common problem with the current mortgage market unfortunately. There's a few mortgage brokers posting on this site who regularly handle cases connected to IVA's and who'd be pleased to talk your case through with you and at least provide you with a second opinion on your options.

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Post by Tracie » Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:46 pm
Thanks for the advice and contacts.

Our disposable income is next to nothing now, with various small increases in expenditure since we started, 2 kids now needing school uniforms etc which wasn't the case when we took it out.

I know in the end I will need to speak to our IP, I just hesitate as when I've have phoned on a couple of occasions for more trivia matters, she seems to be really off hand and unapproachable with me. I suppose I must bite the bullet and deal with it though.

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Post by mikebdomain » Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:50 pm
Hi Tracie

As previously pointed out it is always worth getting a second opinion, is your current broker whole of market?


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Post by Andrew Graveson » Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:55 pm
Hi Tracie,
I think you're right. This certainly cannot be described in any way as trivial and your IP will want the IVA to continue to work. I'm sure your IP has other clients in a simlar position as well.
Mike's point about 'whole of market' is a great one. Some mortgage brokers have access to most or all of the lenders in the UK; while others work from small panels which can restrict choice and value. Another point to consider is whether your mortgage broker is well versed in cases involving IVA's? Those that are will understand which lenders are likely to view your case as attractive to them, and therefore have a better chance of finding you the best deal.

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Post by Sensible77 » Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:57 pm
A general question - is the fact that a fixed rate mortgage will be ending during an IVA taken into account in the proposal? I don't have a fixed rate mortgage, but I would have thought that if an IP is told that the mortgage repayment is likely to increase during an IVA, then the IP should inform the creditors in the proposal.
 
 

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Post by Andrew Graveson » Thu Oct 11, 2007 1:00 pm
Hi there,
I think the current situation has "sprung up" in an unforeseen way with the recent "credit crunch". As the IVA connected mortgage market changes IP's will probably need to take a greater interest at the time of proposal in how mortgage cost and availability will affect the case in the future.
Good IP's are doing that already.

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Post by bagpuss » Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:36 pm
i was in a simular situation to you Tracie...although our IVA is complete we still have a tight budget to stick to, so when our 2 year fixed expired our payments jumped up alot too. I rang round a few different brokers and have finally maged to get a mortgage thats much more affordable....i have decided to go interest only for 3 years...i am thinking of it as just floating by until my credit is repaired and can get a high street lender...I got a rate of 6.65 with NO upfront fees through Leybridge.

Hope this helps. x

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Post by Adam Davies » Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:32 pm
Hi
Wouldn't it be better if people could remortgage before the start of the IVA and release an agreed amount of equity into the IVA.At least then they could fix the rate for five years and because they were still pre IVA could get a better interest rate.
Surely better for all,the creditors get a lump sum very early and the IVA is less likely to fail because of interest rate increases,Joe Public knows that the mortgage rate will not go up during the IVA and knows exactly how much equity they have to pay over and for the IP they are less likely to have a failed IVA and less likely to have to propose variation meetings.Plus the bulk of their fees would be guaranteed to be paid.
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Post by bagpuss » Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:46 pm
thats sort of what we did Andy...we had the mortgage offer first, put them on hold, the IVA was accepted, then rang the broker and said go.....this raised the F/F money needed. But we still had to get a "special" mortage as by that time we had missed a number of payments of creditors and the credit file was starting to go bad.

Really has we thought about it more we would have been better to have it fixed for 5 years instead of 2 to save all the headache i have had over the last few weeks of trying to get a remortgage.

I was under the impression though that after the F/F IVA was complete we wouldnt have any trouble getting a high street lender and a better rate, so opted for just the 2 years...but we where wrong.

I think your right, its like how we have to get another bank account sorted beforehand...maybe the same should be done re mortgages. x



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Post by mikebdomain » Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:48 pm
Great idea Andy only problem is daft as it sounds most people with finance problems are just ‘too clean’ prior to entering an IVA. Let me try to explain;

Mrs X owes £50,000 in various credit cards, store cards, small loans etc.
and a £130,000 mortgage.

She starts to notice that it is becoming difficult to service this debt.

She starts to borrow money to make payments to other creditors, to date she hasn’t actually missed too many payments, but is finding life very hard and decides to remortgage.

She has a joint income of £37,500, which is enough to cover raising a remortgage for her existing mortgage, but… she has outgoings of £800 a month to cover her unsecured debt. This causes affordability issues and will not meet lenders criteria for affordability.

As daft as it sounds….

a) If she defaults on her unsecured borrowing she could remortgage, as the lenders will say she is not servicing the unsecured debt, so she has more disposable income.

b) If she enters an IVA she will be able to remortgage as her monthly payments on the unsecured debt will be lowered.

What’s crazy is;

Even IF we can find her a mortgage product that betters her existing product rate, we still couldn’t remortgage her unless a) or b) had happened….




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Post by Andrew Graveson » Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:57 pm
Another issue is product availability of 5 year fixed rates where there's a credit issue. There are a couple of lenders offering such products but it's hardly a competitive arena.

Mike's point on affordability is key. The rates pre IVA can be lower but that's of no benefit to anyone for whom affordability criteria operated by lenders prevent their case proceeding anyway.

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