My best friend, my saviour Grandma died on saturday

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Post by pinkmink » Thu Dec 09, 2010 6:11 pm
Back again!

Me: IVA since Feb 2007, paid in £300 every month to July 2009 when then redundant at 6 months pregnant- a final settlement amount rejected in Sept 2010 so used it to make £200 monthly payments, payments now on hold as cant even afford to eat.

Anyway the day I dreaded all my life, my best friend, my saviour, Grandma died on Saturday and the house is left to me and my sis due to various past family fueds.
My question is, what will happen to the property? not sure if I have any money left to me yet, my biggest fear is having to give up/sell the property that my grandparents worked hard for (fought in war) all their lives, also Gran lent me £7 last year anyway to sort out iva but didnt go through, not only am I grieving for my best friend I am incredibly stressed about now owning the house, its not in my or sisters name yet, can I refuse the inheritance, I was planning on moving in as we are behind with rent where we are anyway, hubby earns below minimum wage to support 3 of us, can barely affors to eat, can the house be used if we are living there? what about my sisters half? seriously I am close to the brink, my legs buckled as I was carrying my son down the stairs earlier at the thought of both traumas to deal with at the same time.I dont want to do anything illegal, am happy to pay back full IVA amount which is either £5 k in the iva or £16k ish (real amount) please please if anyone can help me out with advise I really am sick with stress at the moment, what happens if I offer a final amount and it goes through then the estate comes to me in 3 months is that legal?
I will even pay for advise if thats what it takes.

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Post by nepensioner » Thu Dec 09, 2010 6:41 pm
Hi Pinkmink
So sorry to hear about your Grandma, it must be very hard for you facing all this without the person who always gave you support. You need to try and be strong now because that is what she would have wanted and the first thing you need to do is speak with your IP. I am certain they will do all they can to help you so pick up the phone and talk to them.
Take care and be strong, you never know whats around the corner
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Post by Shining » Thu Dec 09, 2010 8:39 pm
Hi pinkmink, firstly my condolences on the loss of your Grandma.

I would contact your IP in the first instance to keep them abreast of the full situation and take case specific advice. We do have a few posters who are in the IVA profession on the forum and I'm sure one of them will be along soon and hopefully offer some advice too.
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Post by MelanieGiles » Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:17 pm
Before you even think about the consequences of your IVA, you need to grieve for your much loved Nanna and try to celebrate her life, rather that worry about your debts - which are under control and will not therefore cause you any immediate problems.

Now turning to your inheritance, I am afraid that there is little you can do to avoid the fact that this will have to be declared under the terms of your IVA. I am assuming that your sister knows about your financial difficulties, and will want to help you find the right solution - but you do not need to rush into making family decisions immediately.

Would your sister be prepared to allow you to live in the property rent free until you were able to repay your debts in full. If the full amount is only £16k, this may not take as long as you think - and this could be done within the IVA or outside it if the IVA failed and you decided to enter into a DMP instead.

Could your sister afford to purchase part of your share of your Nanna's property, sufficient for you to repay your debts? If so, this may be a sensible way forward, and you could always treat the money as a loan to be repaid once you get back on your feet again. Either way, you and your sister need to come to some agreement as to what is going to happen to the property, as presumably you cannot both live in it. A rent free period for you, could result in you paying higher payments into the IVA, and therefore perhaps even avoiding the sale of the property to realise your share.

And just one final point to bear in mind. Your Nanna and Grandad, like my Mum and Dad (sadly he is no longer with us, and my Mum is 89 next year) have lived through such tough times in their own lifetimes. My Mum and Dad both served in the Army during the war, as I expect yours did as well. In those days material possessions were not important, family life and survival being the key focus for so many years - to the extent that I think our own generation would find it hard to understand. Although they worked hard to own their property, this was not the be all and end all to them I am sure - their family and homelife would have been far more important, as well as the education and raising of their children. They would probably have lived in a garden shed if they had to, but there would have been tasty meals on the table, and lots of love in the home.

I am sure that your Nanna, much as she was proud about her little palace, would hate to see you suffering financially, when her legacy could help you so much - both to clear the debts and put yourself on a sounder financial footing, especially for the little ones. don't get so bogged down in the emotion of bricks and mortar, and work with your sister and your IP to find a solution that will satisfy everyone - and look to the future with all of those happy memories of that lovely and much loved lady. She would want you to be srong right now, and use her hard earned estate to provide your family with the very best future.

My thoughts are with you at such a difficult time, and please let us know on the forum how you eventually get on.
Regards, Melanie Giles, Insolvency Practitioner
 
 

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Post by kallis3 » Thu Dec 09, 2010 11:05 pm
My sympathies also and I totally agree with everything that has been said.

Thinking of you.
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Post by pinkmink » Fri Dec 10, 2010 3:57 pm
Thank you so much for all the very kind comments on here, I was at my wits end but the kind comments really have given me a little glimmer of hope at such a traumatic time, thank you Melanie inparticular you really couldn't have said it any better, its all so true.
I may be able to live there for a while, me and sis are very close, only thing is Im not working at the moment as looking after my son, but since posting this I have discussed absolutely everything with my sis and feel better now.

I hope one day I will be in a better place and beable to help someone else with advise on this forum as it has saved my sanity many times.

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Post by Julie » Fri Dec 10, 2010 5:33 pm
Awwww my thoughts are with you pinkmink, I still miss my beloved Mam.[:(]

A lovely post by Melanie and I really hope it brings you comfort xx
 
 

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Post by Skippy » Fri Dec 10, 2010 7:49 pm
I'm so sorry to hear that pinkmink. I still miss my dad.

I agree with Julie - that's a lovely post from Melanie and I really can't add anything, other than please keep posting to let us know how you are, and for support as there's always someone around xxx
 
 

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Post by lily » Fri Dec 10, 2010 9:34 pm
Hi there

I know you don't know me but I can kind of identify with your situation a little bit. I was in a very similar situation. My advice would be just to leave things for a little while. Its too soon to be making any decisions yet. You are still in grief, its really hard losing anyone so precious but somehow its made so much worse when it is at Christmas, a time when everyone else is celebrating, you have a huge hole where you heart used to be.

I was so ashamed of my situation at the time, although I had a lot of help from people on here, I did not think I could ever have a life again, I was in pieces. I was amazed how supportive my family were when I came clean. I was actually as precious to them as they are to me, I never thought that could be possible because I had been so stupid and owed this money, I could not pay it.

When the inheritance came in, I had the bank on the phone all the time telling me to come in and speak with them about it, even when I popped into the bank to withdraw some food money, they totally battered me with what they could do for me.

There was so much swimming round my head, all this money in the bank, how desperate I was for things, what I could do for the kids... it took me 3 months to realise the one priceless thing I wanted was to be free, to be me again.

I have never looked back, I have never been as unhappy as I was then and I have never been as happy as I am now.

You must be going through so much at this time and I am really really sorry. I just wanted to say, take care, think carefully and God bless you.

You are a very precious, priceless person to those who love you and they will understand.

Take care.
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Post by leaKybrain » Fri Dec 10, 2010 11:04 pm
Pink I really am so so sorry to hear your sad news. I can't add anything that hasn't already been said, the words that have been written by Melanie and Lily have made me tear up for you.

Take one day at a time and if there is something that you know you are going to have to deal with this week, next week, next month. Write it in the diary so you don't forget when the day comes, but forget about it until then.
 
 

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Post by pinkmink » Mon Dec 13, 2010 3:05 pm
Hello again,

Everyone has been so nice, it appears I did go into panic mode last week, although on the upside I have lost weight!
I spoke to my IP as suggested and asked them what would happen if I came into inheritance like the house and it seems things wouldn't be as bad as I had originally thought, they would have to 'look' at the asset, could I release equity by re mortgaging etc etc, however I do have another little question if anyone could help! :)

I am offering a full & final amount on Dec 22nd (the earliest they can book me in for a call!) the case can take upto 12/15 weeks to go through/complete. If the house should be transferred to me within that time what do I do? I wouldn't want to halt the progress of the 'full & final' as I know I could not remortgage or release equity from the house anyway as no decent job between us. Would it be seen as trying to cover up the fact of receiving this house? do these people have the power to check dates of death & will readings, transfers of assets etc?

oh why can't life just be simple, just any part of it!

Thanks a million..in fact more than that
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Post by orchid5 » Mon Dec 13, 2010 6:50 pm
Hi Pinkmink, firstly may i also offer my sympathies for your loss and what a lovely heartfelt message from Melanie as well. I hope that you get this sorted one way or the other, take care and be safe, good luck for the 20th Dec. x
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Post by MelanieGiles » Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:36 pm
I am afraid that the windfall becomes a windfall as soon as you become entitled to it, so if your Nanna had made a will leaving you a share of her estate then the windfall takes effect from the date of her death and therefore cannot be avoided. Chat this through with your IP to see how they feel about the inheritance.
Regards, Melanie Giles, Insolvency Practitioner
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