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Post by g_l » Thu Jan 18, 2007 8:55 pm
I was with my ex-partner for a number of years, he was unable to obtain any credit and put pressure on me to apply for loans, credit cards and store cards during that time, one of the credit cards has only recently hit its limit. he paid the repayments but has now recently left me and i can no longer afford them.

I am currently not working but I am expecting to get a job within the next couple of weeks which should pay me around £1000 a month I have two children and I am currently renting my property. When working I would probably have between £350 to £450 a month available
 
 

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Post by MelanieGiles » Thu Jan 18, 2007 9:03 pm
Hi g_l

If you are unable to make the ongoing repayments on these debts at the contractual rates, you have the following options:-

1. Declare yourself bankrupt
2. Propose an IVA to the creditors
3. Enter into a Debt Management Programme
4. Try to come to a compromise with the creditors directly.

Take proper professional advice before reaching a decision, so that you fully understand the implications of each procedure, and make sure that the decision you take is only that allows you to move forward into the future in the most comfortable manner.

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Post by g_l » Thu Jan 18, 2007 9:30 pm
Thanks Melanie

What would you do in my situation? Would i be eligable for an IVA and how would i go about getting into a debt managment programme? who runs them?

Sorry if i sound naive.

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Post by MelanieGiles » Thu Jan 18, 2007 9:38 pm
Hi Georgie - not naive at all, and that is what this forum is all about.

The only person who can make a decision here is you, but if you can let me know how much you owe and who to, and whether you are a homeowner or not (if so what equity do you have in the property) I may be able to advise you on the implications of each procedure.

Debt management programmes are run by specialist debt management companies and are typically used where debts are lower than £15,000 or where a person does not wish to enter into formal insolvency proceedings.

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Post by g_l » Thu Jan 18, 2007 9:58 pm
Ok, £9500 loan to Alliance and leicester.
£3000 Mint credit card
£3000 Loan to LloydsTSB
£4500 Credit card to LloydsTSB
£1600 TO NEXT which has now gone to the debt recovery agency Capquest.
£1500 to DFS (sofa company) monthly direct debit.
£350 Choice catolog.

Total £23450

I hope this helps.

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Post by MelanieGiles » Thu Jan 18, 2007 10:40 pm
Georgie

Assuming that you do not own your home, or have any assets of material value, you ought to give serious consideration to either bankruptcy or an IVA. A debt management programme could also work, but I estimate this would take between 7 and 8 years to repay, and it is likely that your creditors will continue to charge interest. There is also no legal protection against them taking action against you under such an arrangement.

Bankruptcy is the most certain route, but does involve a public advertisement in your local paper, attendence at Court and possibly the Official Reciever's office, and potential repayments for a maximium 3 years based upon your disposable income.

As IVA is perhaps more flexible, but requires a high degree of committment and repayments generally over a 5 year period. In an IVA your creditors are likely to get a much higher dividend than in bankruptcy, but you must weigh up the pros and cons of each procedure.

This is very scant advice based upon some minimal facts. I suggest that you seek a more detailed opinion from a licenced insolvency practitioner or debt management specialist. It is often wise to seek two or three opinions before deciding which way to go.

Good luck and don't forget to tell us how you get on.

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Post by jamesfalla » Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:04 pm
Hi Georgie

Melanie is quite right, I think your best options are either Bankrutpcy or IVA. I have given a summary of each of the 3 possible options open to you below (Debt Management; IVA or Bankruptcy) so you have a bit more info.

Given that you are renting (and I assume your new job would not be effectd by bankruptcy), then I think that Bankruoptcy could be the right option for you. Afterall the reason you are in debt does not seem to be your fault. With bankruptcy, you will be discharged after 12 months and if you have to pay anything (which i think on your income would be unlikely) then this would only be for 36 months compared to 60 in an IVA.

There may only be 2 things that would stop you from bankruptcy: First, the publicity element (ie name in paper). However, lets face it, most people do not care about this particularly if you live in a town or city. Second, do you feel a moral duty to pay back as much as you can. If so than the IVA would be the right option.

Options for Dealing with Debt
1. Informal Repayment Plan
Where your debt is typically less than £15,000, a sensible option might be to consider an Informal Repayment plan. This is an agreement with each of your creditors to reduce the amount you pay to each of them to fit within a budget you can afford. The advantage of this is that you start to repay your creditors in a sensible managed way and stop making things worse by robbing Peter to pay Paul.

Although on the face of it, this solution sounds good, there are some significant drawbacks. Firstly because you still have to pay 100% of your debt back, it is likely to take you much longer to repay your debts than would otherwise have been the case. Also, the solution is not legally binding. Therefore there is no guarantee that further interest charges will be frozen. It is also possible that your creditors will take further action against you such as an application for a County Court Judgement or Charging Order against your property.

If you have the time (and generally a very thick skin) you can negotiate an informal payment plan with your creditors yourself. However, this can be very difficult and time consuming. However, don’t despair. You can get free help by contacting either your local Citizens Advice Bureau or the CCCS (Consumer Credit Counselling Service) – As such there are companies available who can help you with this.

2. IVA
Where your total debt exceeds £15,000, a better solution may be to consider an IVA (Individual Voluntary Arrangement). This is a more formal, legally binding way of dealing with your debt. It allows you to make an offer to settle your debts with your creditors over a 5 year period (no longer than a standard unsecured loan). Further interest and charges are frozen by law and you make just one monthly payment based on what you can afford. At the end of 5 years, whatever debt is outstanding will be written off legally thus leaving you debt free to turn over a new leaf.

In order to undertake an IVA, you must be able to make a minimum monthly payment to your creditors of c£250-£300. This may be reduced if you are a homeowner and you can release some equity as part of the deal. Releasing equity may not be a very palatable proposition but at least having done this within the legal framework of an IVA, you know that your debts will be totally gone. You also retain full control of your property which is certainly not the case for the final option below.

3. Bankruptcy
If you have little or no income in order to make any kind of monthly payment to your creditors and no definite view as to when this might change, then the only way you can solve your debt problem for good is to declare Bankruptcy. In doing this, the Court will take away from you the responsibility of paying your debts. You will normally be bankrupt for 12 months. After this time, any unpaid debt will be written off and you will be able to turn over a new leaf, debt free (although you might have to make payments towards your debt to the court for up to 3 years). If you rent your property and have no valuable assets (e.g. an expensive car) it is very unlikely that the Court will require you to give up any of your goods.

The significant downside to bankruptcy is that if you have property, then the Court has the right to take such an asset from you and sell it for the benefit of the creditors. If you are a property owner, you must ensure you take further advice before deciding to declare yourself bankrupt!



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Post by g_l » Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:08 pm
Thank you both for the advice, I think Bankruptcy looks like the best option, What are my next steps who would you advise to contact? Do i keep struggling to make repayments or just stop, i'm withdrawing money from the remainder of my credit card to pay for the bills and a lot of the money has been wasted by my ex-partner only recently, will they take a dim view over this?

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Post by freelili » Fri Jan 19, 2007 7:16 pm
Hi

I am not an expert but I was going bankrupt myself. I would not use any credit now that you have made the decision, do not pay non priorty debts and live with cash for a while. You can contact the CAB to obtain the BR forms or fill them out on line www.insolvency.org.uk. When you have saved the money to go bankrupt, just book a court date. I would also draw any cash out of your account on the day as it will become part of your estate and siezed as part of your estate. Also be aware of the right of offset with your current bank, you may want to change your account, try
www.myvesta.org.uk they offer really good BR advise also.

I have debts with HSBC so I opened an account at Lloyds so I didnt have to worry when I had to default on payments. However then I found out that Barclays, Nationwide and Co-op do accept bankrupts but Lloyds do not.

Good luck and keep posting

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Post by g_l » Sat Jan 20, 2007 7:36 pm
Thanks Lily, I had a breif look at the forms that have to be filled out when going for bankruptcy and noticed that they ask for employers details does this mean they will contact my employer? I wouldn't worry to much but i have only recently started and really wouldn't want them to know?

I also have a basic bank account with a bank that i owe no money too and isn't used would this account be closed when im declared bankrupt?

Thanks again.

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Post by Dominic » Sat Jan 20, 2007 7:52 pm
If you work in the public sector chances are you will have to notify the employer, I am an ex civil servant and my old department had such a requirement if you went bankrupt. If you have access to it I would check your employers guidance on this.
 
 

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Post by freelili » Sat Jan 20, 2007 8:51 pm
To be honest I am not sure, they may contact your payroll department, some jobs are affected in bankruptcy, they include directors, financial, IP's police, bank managers, public sector. I asked my professional body as I am state registered and they said it was OK, if you go to myvesta, there are some videos to watch and it gives you a brief outline of who is affected. The bank account that you mentioned should be ok but if its not one of the few that accept bankrupts the bank may close it anyway. (ie nationwide, barclays and co-op) Hope this helps

wish you the very best of luck

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Post by freelili » Sat Jan 20, 2007 8:53 pm
one more thing about the online forms, fill in as much as you can but amend the total owing and amount of cash at the very end as its important they are accurate on the day of BR. You can save the different areas before submitting on the last day.

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Post by g_l » Mon Jan 22, 2007 5:41 pm
Thanks for the the replies everyone.

OK, just had a call from Debt release direct about an IVA they say they can help me and that i will be paying £320 a month on £26000 split between 6 creditors for 5 years. Does this sound right? is this company any good?

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Post by MelanieGiles » Tue Jan 23, 2007 12:52 pm
Seems like an IVA in there somewhere Georgie. Make sure that you can afford the payments and that you are allowing yourself sufficient contingency each month in case things go wrong.

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