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Post by donna.b » Wed Nov 07, 2007 1:40 pm
I have had a notice served by the sheriff officers, I sent back a payment plan to pay £100 per month, This was then set up with Jeremy Sutcliffe co but unfortunatley I have missed 3 payments and they are threatining to take me to court if I don't pay the full amount which I do not have. Is there anything I can do?
 
 

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Post by Andrew Graveson » Wed Nov 07, 2007 2:25 pm
Hi donna.b,
As you mention the Sheriff's Officer would I be right in thinking that you are resident in Scotland?
Do you have any other debts? Are you a property owner? I'm sure if you're able to post some more information someone will be able to come along and help. Joanne Rolland from Debt Alternatives who posts on the site from time to time has extensive experience of these matters in Scotland and hopefully she'll be able to help you further.

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Post by Andrew Graveson » Wed Nov 07, 2007 2:37 pm
As it could be outside of Scotland is the amount owed very large?

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Post by donna.b » Wed Nov 07, 2007 2:46 pm
Hiya, thanks for the reply.
Yes I am in Scotland.

The amount owed is £6,000.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

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Post by donna.b » Wed Nov 07, 2007 2:47 pm
Sorry....I forgot to say NO I am not a property owner.

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Post by Andrew Graveson » Wed Nov 07, 2007 2:53 pm
Hello,
I just contacted Joanne's office. I'm sure she or her team will be here to help you shortly. Good luck with everything.

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Post by Jo Rolland » Wed Nov 07, 2007 3:32 pm
Hi Donna,

Sorry for the delay in replying.

What form were you originally served by the Sheriff's Officers? Was it an Extract Decree or a Charge for Payment?

Is this the only debt you have, it is presumably with Clydesdale Bank? Is this your only debt?



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Post by MelanieGiles » Wed Nov 07, 2007 3:51 pm
At last! A Scottish expert on the forum.

I am sure that our posters north of the border will benefit from Joanne's extensive experience.

I have known Jo (Hi Jo!) for a number of years and can vouch for the excellent advice that she and her team have given to many Trust Deed and bankruptcy clients over the last few years.

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Post by donna.b » Wed Nov 07, 2007 4:04 pm
Yes it's with the clydesdale Bank and I'm sure it was an Extract Decree that was served. (would have to double check)
I also have an outstanding credit card with them £1,300 and also an overdraft £800 (All with Clydesdale Bank)
I got into bother with them when I was overseas!
It's been such a nightmare!

I appreciate all the help.
 
 

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Post by Jo Rolland » Wed Nov 07, 2007 4:41 pm
Hi Donna, if a Charge for Payment hasn't yet been served against you, you may qualify for a Trust Deed which would protect you from any further legal action by your creditors.

If a Charge for Payment has been issued, you then qualify in Scotland to petition for your own sequestration (bankruptcy) and as you have no assets this is also a solution you could consider.

If you would like me to go through these options with you please let me know.



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Post by bigpete » Wed Nov 07, 2007 6:26 pm
Hi Donna
A bit more about a Scottish Trust Deed: The chances of a Scottish Trust Deed being successful is higher than an IVA - maybe it's because the creditors are more likely to get their money within three years instead of five long ones - when a lot can happen (is it 26% of IVA's fail during their term because of difficulties by the debtor?; loss of job and it's said apathy of the debtor living on a pittance for a long 60 months?). After paperwork has been signed, your IP will put together copies for the creditors, a notice will appear in the 'Edinburgh Gazette' (don't panic it's not like the national press or your local paper -the Gazette is the 'Official Journal of Scotland' published twice weekly on Tuesday and Friday) a copy of this notice will also be sent to all your creditors, and also a set of the same to you. Although it says 'Bankruptcy' - it's not but comes under that legislation, like this:
[Trust Deeds

Bankruptcy (Scotland) Act 1985 Section 5, paragraph 5(3)Trust Deeds for Creditors by

'JOE BLOGS'

A Trust Deeds has been granted by Joe Blogs, 100 Any Street, Anytown, BB678 9YT, on (date), conveying - to the extent specified in Section 5(4A) of the Bankruptcy (Scotland) Act 1985) (his/her) estate to me, (name and address of IP) asTrustee for the benefit of (his/her) creditors generally.

If a creditor wishes to object to the Trust Deeds for the purposes of preventing it becoming a protected Trust Deed (see notes below on the objections required for that purpose) notification of such objection must be delivered in writing to the Trustee within 5 weeks of the date of publication of this notice in The Edinburgh Gazette.

Notes: TheTrust Deed will become a protected Trust Deeds unless, within the period of 5 weeks of the date of publication of this notice in The Edinburgh Gazette, a majority in number or not less than one third in value of the creditors notify the Trustee in writing that they object to the Trust Deeds and do not wish to accede to it.

The effect of this is that paragraphs 6 and 7 of Schedule 5 to the Act will apply to the Trust Deeds. Briefly, this has the effect of restricting the rights of non-acceding creditors to do diligence (ie to enforce court decrees for unpaid debts) against the debtor and confers certain protection upon the Trust Deeds from being superseded by the sequestration of the debtor’s estate...]

Copies are also sent to the 'Accountant in Bankruptcy' (AIB). You now sit and wait patiently for the five weeks to complete and then you will be notified whether or not the Trust Deed was objected to, the IP hears this via the AIB then tells you. If they have not received objections then your 'Trust Deed' becomes a 'Protected Trust Deed' and the creditors can no longer chase you, interest is frozen and it's 34 and a bit months to go. However but if the Trust Deed is objected to by over a third in value and fails, you are not 'protected' you still have to abide by the terms/payments set out in the Trust Deeds but your creditors are still able to chase you - but this would be quite unusual and I am sure your IP would not propose the Trust Deed if there was any chance of this happening.

Don't know if you have any equity in your house? but the value of the house is taken at the start of the Trust Deed and the equity is worked out at that date, and released by remortgage in the third year, unlike an IVA.. but as Melanie says; Trust Deeds usually run for three years only, and if rejected by creditors result in immediate sequestration - a form of bankruptcy whereby you also pay for three years.

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Post by Jo Rolland » Wed Nov 07, 2007 7:32 pm
Donna, I haven't gone into all the in's and out's as Pete has, as we need to ascertain first if you have been served with a Charge for Payment. Also a Trust Deed is in fact informal bankruptcy, known in Scotland as Squestration.

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Post by bigpete » Wed Nov 07, 2007 8:03 pm
Jo, I'm not a expert on it, just going through one at the moment.
When I read your: "Also a Trust Deed is in fact informal bankruptcy, known in Scotland as Sequestration." it sounded scary, (although it means the same, I like); 'A Trust Deed is a legally binding voluntary arrangement, available only in Scotland, which offers debtors an alternative to bankruptcy (sequestration). or 'A Trust Deed is a form of informal bankruptcy but still regulated by The Bankruptcy (Scotland) Act 1985.' picky I know but lowers the level of panic!
 
 

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Post by Jo Rolland » Thu Nov 08, 2007 9:12 pm
Hi Pete

I have been dealing with Trust Deeds and Sequestration for 10 years now and am a firm believer in people entering into either are fully aware of the seriousness and that it should not be entered into blindly. That way all eventualities are covered and all "what if" questions are answered. I have never had anyone panic whilst going though the process, even those that have been expecting and objection sufficient enough for the Trust Deed to fail which does lead to automatic sequestration.



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