Price of Barrel of OIL

[kallis3]

My husband tells me that the price of oil has actually DROPPED today, both Brent Crude and US Light. Will we see this reflected at the pumps? I very much doubt it!

You are right about Gordon Brown not giving a toss about the populace - he has all his expenses paid, and of course the MP's are now voting in this new expense thing whereby they get a lump sum per year for their additonal expenses for second homes and they don't have to provide receipts! It's about 28 grand and a lot of people don't earn that much and have to live on it!

Come the revolution brothers!!!!!

I'm off my soapbox now!

[jpj]

Did you know Gordon Brown has NEVER even had a driving licence!!!

A scott,who cant drive,deciding how much we should pay to get round our own country...ugh...and dont start me on the speeding ticket i got yesterday!!!![:(]

[chris.g]

Kallis, how much do you want to bet that proposal goes through without any objection???? Like the payrises they get, how comes THEY have the final say on how much pay increase they get, not their employers....the general public!

[kallis3]

Chris - foregone conclusion that it will go through. They have been embarrased enough by the expenses we have seen, they won't want us to see anymore! Margaret Beckett asking for £600 for her garden - totally ridiculous! They really don't want us to see what they are spending our money on!

ladyh, I am fed up of going out with my list and money, and finding that it isn't going to stretch as far as I thought, and having to tell hubbie that he can't go and visit his daughter (30 miles away) because we can't afford the petrol!

And don't even start me on the cost of gas and electricity..........!

[janderson]

Hi Whingers


get with the plan and stop whining on about the govt ministers and MPs doing this and that. If you live in a capitalist system and the system makes more profit what do you expect. Some things are not in the control of govt it is market forces


Td of of west yorkshire

[chris.g]

Doesn't help the fact that all the ministers and MP's are bent as a nine bob note!!!
I would trust ANY of them, they're all corrupt. If they were truly there for the beneifit of the people like they claim, they wouldn't be screwing the system. They have a nerve to call benefit fraudsters....9 times out of 10 those on benefits need the money not like those money grabbing con-men/women!!!

[animaleyes76]

wouldnt normally do this.. td of yorkshire.. totally disagree....


just the kind of person everyone needs. The kind of person that blames the ordinary man for capitilism but would probably cry foul in communism.

We're all having hard times, but seeing those with their noses in the trough dictate how we all "feel" is even worse. Forget your political broadcast. Whether capitalist or communist the ordinary man always loses out.

[janderson]

Hi All

I may be a, whatever the previous person said I was but I too am in a financial hole. it is the system that rejected my IVA application. It is poorly constructed and only gives the power to creditors when in reality it should be the IP that decides whether our IVAs go ahead or not. Also in relation to slagging of MPs Councillors etc I do find it offensive to call them all corrupt or bent. I have a lot of friends who are either MPs or Councillors and they work damned hard for the electors who put them there. It is too broad based to say they are all corrupt. I also am political and do remember the last Tory govt. it wrecked our area and it is still suffering from decline. All I would urge you to do is think about what can and cant be controlled by elected representatives before villifying them all.



Cheers



John in West yorkshire

[Skippy]

Sorry, while I'm paying towards Margaret Beckett's garden, Gordon Brown's Sky Sports and David Cameron's mortgage then as far as I'm concerned the whole system and most of those using it are corrupt. And to think MPs are demanding a pay increase to £100k while the whole country goes down the pan...

[chris.g]

I'm sorry if I offended you John, but how many of your political friends are truly in it for the public? I think maybe they started off with an idealistic view of fighting for the greater good but get sucked into and carried along by the corruption that IS politics....lets face it, what else is it if not 'you scratch my back and I'll scratch your's'???? Maybe at grass root level the corruption is not as evident, but it will still be there.
In my opinion, and I stress MY opinion, All poiticians of ALL parties are corrupt, greedy and are in it for the power/money. They have had the opportunity to scam and fiddle a hell of a lot of public cash and don't like it when they get caught out so then put in place new measures cover themselves......

[drowning-mummy]

According to 'the money saving expert', the average family of four have seen their weekly household costs raise by 32% since last year. Thats enormous. I would not have even guessed that figure.

[animaleyes76]

John,

Sorry to hear that your IVA was rejected (

I think you caught me on a bad night last night so apologies (even though i still totally disagree)I remember the tories too and personally i was a lot better off than I am now I can tell you.

I personally didn't call any MP/Councillor corrupt, I just think the expenses system is corrupt and open to abuse. Tony B claiming 10k for a kitchen in his constituency home paid for by the tax payer. Just because somehow these expenses are able to be claimed doesn't mean they should be, especially when the rest of the country is feeling financial pain. It just goes to show how out of touch MP's/Councillors really are (All parties included)

Anyway, rant over, sorry to hear you are having a bad time and apologies for petty name calling lol

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[kallis3]

John, just caught up with this thread again.

My feelings on the matter are that this Labour Govt., is totally shot, and the sooner an election is called the better. I know that not all MP's are corrupt, but it is difficult to separate the good from the bad when all you see is the bad. I find it hard to separate Gordon Brown from the Treasury, and as far as I am concerned Darlng is just his mouthpiece and he is still pulling the strings.

Don't get me wrong - I voted Labour the last twice, but I won't be doing so again. I agree with animaleyes. I was a lot better off under the Tories.

I think Tony Blair saw the writing on the wall - he got out at the right time.

[Skippy]

I agree Ladyh - I don't care if Labour, Conservative or the Monster Raving Loonies win providing I can walk down the street without feeling threatened, get hospital treatment if needed and be able to afford to shop, heat the house and put petrol in the car without worrying that the price has gone up since last week.

It scares me that kids are leaving school unable to read and write, that the elderly are left to die on hospital trollies and that people are unable to get life saving drugs that they need.

The problem is who ever gets in at the next election will have a hell of a job to sort things out as the country is such a mess - there is no discipline or deterrent, as the prisons are full (and more like a holiday camp anyway) and prisoners are being let out early.

[animaleyes76]

Clearly i'm a tory so i'm biased but i do hate the fact people say the tories are all spin an no substance (ironic considering)

Every policy they HAVE unveiled has been stolen by labour (inheritance tax etc), so why with 2 years until an election would you reveal anymore lol.

I agree with Skippy and Ladyh that the important things are that kids can read, there are jobs (proper ones, not ones to get people off the figures), that people can afford to live and have a reasonable quality of life rather than actual politics. It's not a lot to ask hey.

Finger's x'd for me next Tuesday, I have an interview that will get me out of the UK. Hooray. )