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Post by Niobe » Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:36 pm
I didn't realise that you were allowed to contact your creditors whilst in an IVA Mel.
 
 

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Post by Foggy » Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:41 pm
font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">quote:<hr height="1" noshade>Originally posted by Niobe

I didn't realise that you were allowed to contact your creditors whilst in an IVA Mel.
Likewise -- I apologise for giving duff advice [:I]
My opinions are merely that .. opinions based on experience. Always seek professional advice.
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Post by GilliB » Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:49 pm
That's what I think is great about this forum - we can learn something new everyday! x
IVA journey started: 30th March 2009. Settled: 17th July 2012. Completion Certificate received: 13th March 2013. Breathe. x
 
 

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Post by MelanieGiles » Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:57 pm
An IVA is merely a contract between debtor, creditors and IP. Nothing to stop ongoing contact if the need arises.
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Post by worried9876 » Sat Oct 06, 2012 8:32 pm
Hello,

Melanie it appears we have a very different take on the events to date.

As i find your comments above inaccurate I will for the benefit of the forum member and my creditors create a website to insure everyone is aware of the facts.

I will of course only post information on this website that is written by email by myself and your staff.

I will then let the forum member and creditors decide if i am in the wrong or it is your company or if it is in fact a storm in a tea cup so to speak.

I obviously am seen as the bad guy on the forum as you have such a good following.

I just wish your company had treated me in the way you appear to have treated many other people and made them happy.

Perhaps i am at fault how ever once i punish the website with time line lets let people make up there own mind.

As for the way forward I will be taking my findings to the governing bodies of IVA comapnies on Monday.

I will how ever allow the variation meeting to take place if your company still wants to represent me, how ever i will be planing for the worst which will be a petition for bankruptcy. If this happens I will then be taking my finding to court and will let the judge decide if I am in fact at fault.

I do not understand why a simple routine request for a F&F settlement has created such a problem for your company and the requirement to handle it as you have done so.

Perhaps there are more clever people than I out there that can explain this to me, perhaps a bankruptcy judge.
 
 

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Post by worried9876 » Sat Oct 06, 2012 8:37 pm
MikeyM - I am glad your having a good experiance.

i chose this company three years ago because of the great feed back it had on this forum.

I never expected to find fault with them how ever i have, do i want to be answering forum posts defending myself on a Saturday evening, certainly not, do i feel the need to, well yes.

Do i want to be fighting people for a resolution to my problem, certainly not, do i feel the need to, yes.

Can i convey the struggle i have had with the company via words on the forum - no, how can i - well publish everything on a separate website.
 
 

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Post by worried9876 » Sat Oct 06, 2012 8:40 pm
MikeyM - I have tried and tried so deal via confidential channels.

How ever the reaction i get is that of delay, redirection or nothing at all.

I'm not sparking of this thread for the fun of it or to be nasty. i am simple at the end of my tether and I simple will not be treated like this. I have bitten my tong for 3 months and after today i am not going to take it any more.
 
 

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Post by worried9876 » Sat Oct 06, 2012 8:48 pm
Mikey M - "But as ever professional, factual"

Agreed Mel is professional and factual on the forum.

I await to see he response when I publish my email conversation with her staff.

Again i just ultimately want to be treated professional and by no means am i on a crusade to put Mel out of business, how ever if you were sitting in my shoe's at present reading the letter from her company in front of me i assure you, you would not be very happy.

Well lets pick this up perhaps when the website is live. People can make there own mind up, perhaps i am at fault, if that is the case i am not to proud to say so as ultimately I want a quiet life and to insure i can care for my family after the creation of this debt in my youth.
 
 

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Post by GilliB » Sat Oct 06, 2012 8:49 pm
Sorry worried9876, but who do you think is here to judge you? From reading all the posts, I can't see where you need to defend yourself. For me worried9876, it's about how you can be supported moving forward, which again I'll say - I sincerely hope it will be soon for you and your family. x
IVA journey started: 30th March 2009. Settled: 17th July 2012. Completion Certificate received: 13th March 2013. Breathe. x
 
 

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Post by worried9876 » Sat Oct 06, 2012 9:04 pm
GillB - perhaps its me, perhaps its my state of mind. How ever today has felt like i am an out sider.

In fairness that is fine, Mr Nobody vs a well known and respected IP who will people side with...

Sorry not everyone has made me feel that way :-)

i would like to think i am a fair person so Thats my reason for thinking about a website. A simple and easy way to present facts. People then can make there own minds up.
 
 

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Post by GilliB » Sat Oct 06, 2012 9:23 pm
Hi again. The message I've been trying to get across all along is that it's not about taking sides at all, and it feels like that's what you need and want at this time. I only speak for myself when I say I don't know either of you from Amanda, and have no interest in showing 1 or the other as being in the right or wrong. I suspect you may still feel isolated on here, because it's unlikely any/many posters will take sides. I tend to read advice on here and if helpful (has been up to now),I deal directly with my CO, and thankfully I'm nearing the end - which I hope for you too. x
IVA journey started: 30th March 2009. Settled: 17th July 2012. Completion Certificate received: 13th March 2013. Breathe. x
 
 

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Post by back on track » Sat Oct 06, 2012 9:25 pm
what is the addy of the website?
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Post by Niobe » Sat Oct 06, 2012 9:32 pm
I don't think there is one at the moment.
 
 

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Post by MikeyM » Sat Oct 06, 2012 9:47 pm
worried9876 - seems like you have bigger problems than your debts.
 
 

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Post by worried9876 » Sat Oct 06, 2012 9:47 pm
********* Please see my comments in stars, i was going to not reply but i am afraid i have taken the bait ***************


I have been following this post all day to day and wondering if I should make any form of contribution, given that this complaint is directed personally at me. Posters
Who interact with me regular will know that I rarely discuss a client's business on the forum, and do not intend to do so now. However, I do wish to make the
Following general points about this particular case:-

*** With respect, I have and will highlight shortly I am more than willing for you to talk about this case in a public forum. I expect the information could be of use
to other people in my position. Again with respect I see the only reason for not talking about this in an open forum is for you business. Is bad press ever a good
thing!! Well I expect not. I'm afraid this time lets air the views in public and let’s let people make their own minds up. I chose your company due to the good
reputation you have on this forum 3 years ago, would I recommend you now I am afraid not, should other members of the public hear of the bad and good, well I think yes***********

1 The debtor acknowledges his breach and the reasons which have led to the default. The current status of his IVA been accurately reported to his creditors.

************ At know point have you told me I am in breech, I have email after email asking what my options are, if the IVA would fail after non-payment of 3 months
and if you thought an F&F was a sensible idea or not. I simple was told your IVA will not fail after 3 months of non-payment and I was directed down the route of
continuing to pay the IVA even though I had informed you many times that I did not think it would be the most sensible idea. I was then never given any advice on if or
what the alternatives were and also if you would support me through these alternatives that I was left to find. I am simple not lying here; your staff have given no useful advice for my situation and simple steered me towards the most profitable solution for you company to continue the IVA no matter what. ************

2 Under the terms of his variation, once a breach has occurred, there are three choices to put before creditors for their consideration - a variation, a termination or
Bankruptcy proceedings.

************** You have not told me a breech has occurred. you have told me if I am not willing to provide information that a breech will occur but you have never told
me it has. The only reason for withholding some information for a day was to insure I got answers to my questions, such as definitive time scales after months of
waiting. I have the emails in front of me!!! Please don't defend yourself with information that is simple not true!!! *************

3 A proposed variation was submitted by the debtor which required supporting documentation. The final paperwork - detailing his historic income - was only received by
my office early this week. Not all information we required was able to be provided by the debtor.

***************** Gee Wiz, I have done everything in my power to get you all the documentation that you required. I asked again and again what information was required
and then something extra was requested just at the point I felt we were making progress, which created further delay. I am reading this and getting more and more
frustrated... Unless a bankruptcy judge disregards email as evidence I simple can't see how your comments stand. ****************

4 There have been no IT issues in my office of which I am aware. The debtor claims he has sent e-mails, my IT department have been unable to trace them, or find that
incoming e-mails have been rejected. We have a sophisticated internal and external IT system, which can be subjected to rigorous audits in the event of queries - which
Are exceptionally rare.

****************** All very reassuring however your member of staff told me an a certain attachment size is rejected by your email servers. That is more than fair how
ever a month previous I have a reply from your member of staff regarding an email attachment far bigger than the quoted size. To say your IT staff or other have a good
understanding of your technology is once again a great concern to me as its simple not the case. *****************

5 We asked the debtor to write a letter to his creditors explaining the reasons which have led to his breach and his proposed settlement. This was entirely reproduced
Within the body of his variation report - and therefore the representation to creditors comes directly from himself.

****** After your opening paragraphs basically gave a one or two month snap shot of my finances and by no way gave a fair interpretation of the 5 month journey I have
had or the problems I face in the furture. Yes in simple you represented my best financial month since I was made unemployed but the facts of the matter that was not
consistent to other months. Thus in short you have made it appear I have more money than I have thus my proposal to the creditors is for want of a better word a lie.
******************

I am sorry that the poster feels that I and my staff have not acted in his best interests. We have complied with his request to submit a variation to deal with his
Breach in an entirely realistic timescale. Should he wish to lodge a formal complaint, he should firstly write to me outlining the exact nature of that complaint and
this will be dealt with in the appropriate manner.

****** Perhaps it would be useful to state to any new client how you deal with such situations of redundancy and offer of F&F. In my experience this is not in the best
Interests of the client or creditors but simple to insure your IVA company makes the most profit. ********************

I do not intend to engage publicly about this matter on the forum, but trust that readers will accept that I did have to respond to the best of my ability given the
Publicity that the poster has sought.

******* I am afraid your reputation can only take you so far and I feel so strongly about this I am going to do my best to insure everyone is aware of the facts of
this matter.****************

And finally - there is nothing to stop a debtor at any stage of the IVA process making separate representations to creditors should they so wish.

****************** Well that's the best and most useful thing your company has told me since I originally asked for help and advise 3 months ago***********************
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