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Post by o_k » Thu Aug 30, 2007 9:28 am
Hello
I had an IVA but it has failed. I am now being chased by one of my creditors for the money, I am currently out of work so just cannot afford to pay it. My other creditors have not yet been in contact but I assume this is only a matter of time.
I'm really worried that I will be sent to prison for non payment of debts. Can you help me?
 
 

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Post by Skippy » Thu Aug 30, 2007 9:35 am
Hi o_k and welcome to the forum. Don't worry, you will not be sent to prison. As far as I am aware you can only be sent to prison for non payment of council tax or court fines. I used to work in the court service and believe me, it's a last resort!

Have you considered bankruptcy? This could put an end to your debt worries once and for all and enable you to start a new debt free life. Can you let us know whether you own any property or a car.

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Post by MelanieGiles » Thu Aug 30, 2007 9:36 am
Hi ok and welcome to the forum

You will certainly not be sent to prison for non payment of debts. That was abolished back in the 1800's!

I suggest that you seriously now consider declaring yourself bankrupt, given that you cannot afford to pay your debts, are out of work and already have a failed IVA on your record. Has the Supervisor ceased to act?

Applying for bankruptcy proceedings these days is a fairly simple procedure, and you will get some saving on the usual cost of £485 as you are unemployed. This will bring you peace of mind and take the debts away for good, leaving you free to hopefully make a fresh start.

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Post by mikebdomain » Thu Aug 30, 2007 9:37 am
Contact the creditor and make them aware of the situation, surely with a failed IVA you should expect bankruptcy proceedings to start soon.

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Post by iva_squirrel » Thu Aug 30, 2007 9:43 am
Hi o_k,

I think bankruptcy is the way out for you now. Try to contact your creditor and explain them what happened. As Melanie says applying for bankruptcy is very simple and the fastest you start the process the sooner the chancing ends.

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Post by iva experts » Thu Aug 30, 2007 9:44 am
As others have mentioned I would seriously consider bankruptcy as the way forward. Alot of people avoid bankruptcy because of the stigma attached, however these days I believe the stigma is becoming increasingly less.

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Post by o_k » Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:53 am
Thank you for your replies. Talking to you has certainly helped!
I do not own a house or car. How do I go about applying for bankruptcy and what does it involve?
 
 

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Post by Adam Davies » Thu Aug 30, 2007 12:00 pm
Hi
Have a read of several blogs on this site[Skippy,coco etc] as they have been through bankruptcy and it,s not as bad as you imagine.
You can download the forms from the insolvency services website and petition yourself at a cost of £485,however if you are not working you may get a discount.
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Post by Skippy » Thu Aug 30, 2007 12:03 pm
You can find out a lot of information on www.insolvency.gov.uk, and you can also complete the BR forms online. You will need to contact your local court to make sure that they deal with BR (mine didn't) and also whether you need to make an appointment. I went BR in March and I have put all the details of what happened to me in my blog.

Good luck, and if you have any questions please post - there is always someone who can help!

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Post by Oliver » Thu Aug 30, 2007 1:11 pm
Bankruptcy is the way that an individual person can deal with personal debts, which they have no hope of repaying.

If you have debts which you just can not afford to repay, either through an IVA or an informal debt management programme, then Bankruptcy might be a sensible option for you.

Bankruptcy is normally seen as a last resort after all other options for repaying debt have been exhausted. If you are declared bankrupt, you will no longer have to repay your creditors yourself and the court will protect you from any further actions that your creditors threaten against you. However, where you can afford to make any payment towards your creditors, then you will be made to do so by the Court for up to 3 years.

Facts about Bankruptcy:
- The responsibility for paying your debts is taken away from you by the Court.
- You will normally be Bankrupt for 12 months.
- You may have to make monthly payments towards your debt for 3 years.
- After 3 years, any outstanding debt is written off.
- The record of your bankruptcy remains on your credit file for 6 years.
- You will have to give up your share of any equity in property you own.
- You will be allowed to keep reasonable household goods.
- You will be allowed to keep your car as you have a reasonable requirement for it and it is not unreasonably valuable.

What happens to my property and belongings?
You will normally be able to keep reasonable personal items and household goods such as furniture and electrical goods as long as their value is not greater than the cost of their reasonable replacement. However, you will be expected to sell valuable assets such as antiques and expensive vehicles.

As a bankrupt, your title to any house you own or are paying a mortgage on will be passed to the Court. As such, ownership of any equity that you have personally in the property will pass to the Court. The Court will want to realise such equity for the benefit of your creditors.

This means that either you will need a third party to make an offer to the Court to buy out your equity or the Court will force the sale of the property to release the equity. If your husband, wife or children are living with you, it may be possible to put off a sale until the end of the first year of your bankruptcy to give time for other housing arrangements to be made. Your spouse or any other interested party would be encouraged to take legal advice about the home as soon as possible.

What will Bankruptcy cost?
In order to declare your self bankrupt, you will need to pay Court Fees. These normally total a one off charge of £490. If you require additional advice and help to complete your application forms, you must also expect an additional charge for this service.


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Post by Soulgrowth » Thu Aug 30, 2007 7:02 pm
Or, as I believe, now the IVA has failed the original IP will, in time, bring bankruptcy proceedings against you anyway which will save you having to pay the bankruptcy fees? At least this was the advice I was given by my well respected IP when an unexpected post IVA debt turned up out of the blue. The response was "oh dear ... stop making your IVA payments and after three months we will make you bankrupt"! :(

I have ... they haven't ... and I've since found a brilliant company with innovative and fresh ideas that have, somehow, managed to get me a re-mortgage to offer a full and final ... Melanie, thanks for your positivism, fingers crossed it looks like the re-mortgage will complete on Monday :)

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Post by Skippy » Thu Aug 30, 2007 7:21 pm
Whether or not your IP will make you bankrupt depends on how long you have been in the IVA, and also the provisions made for BR. I was advised to make myself BR as I hadn't paid enough to cover the IP fees, let alone anything else! I also didn't have anything in my IVA to say that my IP had to keep any money back to petition for BR in the event of my IVA failing. It was either do it myself or wait for a creditor to do it and I decided I wanted to get it over and done with so I did it myself.

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Post by lily » Thu Aug 30, 2007 7:46 pm
OK

Just wanted to say, hang in there, non payment of debts is a civil matter not a legal one.

There will be a way forward for you and you will look forward to better days. Your IVA failed you havent. Take a look at BR, its not as bad as it sounds.

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Post by thebear29uk » Thu Aug 30, 2007 8:13 pm
Hi o_k

Like Skippy says it will depend on how much you have paid in to the IVA whether your IP will make you bankrupt. If you check your proposal it will tell you how much the Nominee fees and set-up costs are. If you have paid in at least that amount plus £485 then your IP should do it. However if you have paid less then you will need to raise the £485 and petition yourself.

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Post by o_k » Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:03 pm
I just wanted to thank you all very much for your help and advice. I really appreciate it.
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