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MelanieGiles

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Post by MelanieGiles » Tue May 29, 2007 9:12 pm
You could try an IVA, but expect Northern Rock to reject due to the low dividend. Alternatives are - a Debt Mangement Programme or declaring yourself bankrupt. Why not call Northern Rock, explain your situation and see what they can suggest?

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Post by Adam Davies » Wed May 30, 2007 11:05 am
Hi
Not sure if I agree with Melanies 30p dividend.
£483 x 60 would be £28900,less IP fees of 8k would leave about 21k to creditors[less than 20p].I guess that Melanie is including your equity of 15k in the figures and this would indeed increase your dividend to 30p.
Do you expect your business to grow as the years go on ??

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Post by stam » Wed May 30, 2007 11:29 am
Thanks Andy,

I hope that the busines will grow, but just keeping the customers I have has to be my priority. However if I base my income on the last 6 months rather than the year Apr to Apr I have just over £700 showing as disposable for IVA payment.
Some of this variation is due to having a lower amount of customers at startup of the business (first 6 months), some is due to time of year. However based on last year the months March through to September should be slightly higher so an average disposable income for IVA of approx £700 would seem possible. I'll need to look in more detail and try to project accurately to be more certain but perhaps this is a glimmer of hope,
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Post by MelanieGiles » Wed May 30, 2007 11:44 am
Yes Andy - that's exactly how I was calcuatind the dividend! As we know Northern Rock, and the majority of other creditors, expect to see equity raised as a matter of course during an IVA.

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Post by Adam Davies » Wed May 30, 2007 11:54 am
Hi Melanie
Would creditors accept an IVA where the monthly payments resulted in a dividend of less than 20p ? Surely the equity cannot be guaranteed in any IVA proposal due to house prices possibly going down.
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Post by MelanieGiles » Wed May 30, 2007 12:20 pm
Hi Andy

At present the benchmark of a minimum 25p in the £ is generally accepted in the marketplace as being minimum dividend. However when you talk to a lot of the creditors individually, they say that they do not operate under any criteria apart from viewing whether the case returns a higher dividend than in bankruptcy.

However, I don't think that you can get away from ignoring the property issue, and of course creditors are fully aware that no-one can control fluctuations in the property market. Dividends relying upon equity release can never be guaranteed.

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