SC Clearance For New Employment

[whydididoit]

Hello people, my first post here. I hope to be around for a while if all goes well.

So here's my question. I have been offered a job with the Ministry of Defence, and as a result have been sent a rather scary looking Grey Form (1109) for an SC/CTC check.

I know that as a part of the checks they carry out a credit check, and when it gets to this point I know I'm going to fail. I'll be hoenst at this point, in the last few years I've had rather a nightmare with debt after losing my job and a messy seperation. As a result I have multiple defaults and a CCJ which was paid in full last month.

I realise that people have passed an SC with an IVA before, however I'm currently in the process of going into an IVA and as a result am not there yet. I will of course declare everything on my SC form and hope for the best. Im actually really disappointed in myslef, as I got into a mess and I'll pay for it by maybe losing a job that, ironically, would allow we to make good on my IVA alot faster.

So does anyone have any experiance or advice for me? Is it even worth me completing this form and sending it off?

Thanks in advance guys.

[stirling]

I've copied a pasted this as it came up earlier.
To get a security clearance in most Govt positions the application form may or may not have financial questions.
However if selected for the position you always have to fill in a security clearance form.


Question 11:HAVE YOU OR YOUR PARTNER,

a.Ever been declared bankrupt.
b.been the subject of an adverse Count Court judgement.
c.Ever defaulted on a loan.
d.Been party toa voluntary agreement registered with a County Court.
e.Had repossession proceedings against you.

Question 16

c.Do you currently have,or have you ever had,significant financial difficulties.

Now providing you are honest and up front, you do not leave youself open to blackmail in what could be a position of trust.That is all they are looking for, however bankrupcy could exclude you from certain positions.

I say complete the form it can't do any harm.


Hope this helps.

[MelanieGiles]

I do not believe that you are credit checked for SC clearance, but you must make sure that you answer the questions honestly.

[Max]

Credt checks are carried out for certain Govt Service posts - much depends upon the Grade of the post occupied - MOD, Treasury. GCHQ, Diplomatic Service and of course the Security Services and Justice can and often do carry the most frequent checks as an on going procedure.

[MelanieGiles]

They certainly would be for any Positive or Developed Vetting jobs, which is quite a rigorous process not just about your finances but about all aspects of your personal life.

[Max]

Thanks Melanie - I should have put that in - I am a little out of date. In my day even some posts in the Department of Energy were subjected to that type of vetting - when Scargil was in full flight. David

[MelanieGiles]

I was subjected to two DV checks whilst serving in the Army, due to the nature of the job I was doing. They were incredibly detailed, and they even interviewed some of my close friends about very personal aspects of my private life. I suppose there is a need for this, but it was not very pleasant at the time!

[Max]

Melanie you must have a brain like a steel trap to have coped with that-one thing you will find easy - keeping a secret!

[kallis3]

Someone I work with applied for a job with a specialised branch within the police force. He was subject to the same vetting as you Melanie. His friends were asked whether or not he downloaded porn from the internet! And other aspects of his personal life as well.

As you say - not pleasant!

[MelanieGiles]

The next time I see you Jan, I'll let you know some of the questions I was asked. I am sure I was beetroot for the whole interview!

[kallis3]

I wonder if the person asking the questions gets a kick out of it?

I do hope they hurry up and do something about an FF. I'm dying to meet up with friends old and new.

[Skippy]

I can remember being security checked and asked if I was a terrorist when I applied for a job as a service administrator for a security firm! That was 11 years ago, so I can imagine how rigourous it is now!

[kallis3]

My stepdaughter is now working on a 6 month maternity cover contract in the accounts dept at Group 4. She is in a DMP, had a CCJ or two and managed to get past their vetting!

[Max]

a friend of mine has just been appointed to a fairly senior post in the Prison Service - going to the Service from outside. He told me that not only did they know where he banked but also that he had an overdaft.How on earth did the vetters find out that - he does not know and did not ask. I did not know the Prison Service carried out such vigorous checking on its senior staff. By the way, if he should go bankrupt he would loose his jod immediately.

[kallis3]

I suppose they have to check - senior position or not I presume he will be coming into contact with the inmates (are we allowed to call them that these days?) so I suppose they have to make sure he's not going to be open to bribery.