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Post by gord » Tue Jan 27, 2009 11:42 am
in my daily dealings with creditors I have found that MBNA never anymore ask any security questions - they just go straight into ask my name and then go into the call

when I asked them why they didnt ask a security question they said they dont have to for outgoing calls ?

I thought that the data protection act stipulated that - maybe I am wrong

I know it is my mobile - but they siometimes phone work too - but as it is my direct line I always answer

anyone else found this ?
 
 

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Post by rayb » Tue Jan 27, 2009 11:48 am
I have not to be honest. Normally any firm when you ring them or they ring you, you always have to go through a security check to confirm your identity. Very worrying that these people do not!!!
 
 

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Post by Skippy » Tue Jan 27, 2009 11:51 am
I thought any firm had to go through security with you before discussing your account. Even Specsavers did this when they wanted to talk about my contact lens account!
 
 

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Post by kallis3 » Tue Jan 27, 2009 12:07 pm
They're not supposed to speak to anyone but you, and I have always had to jump through hoops before anyone will discuss anything with me about my account.
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Post by Skippy » Tue Jan 27, 2009 1:00 pm
I have refused to confirm my details before, meaning they are not supposed to talk to you about the account.
 
 

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Post by kallis3 » Tue Jan 27, 2009 1:07 pm
With the AA last year, even though the direct debit for my daughters membership came out of our bank account, they wouldn't let me change the details as the membership wasn't mine! Wouldn't mind, but I was allowed to start it for her! Daughter had to give them permission to speak to me!
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Post by gord » Tue Jan 27, 2009 1:21 pm
interesting

The girl at MBNA collections was quite clear with me that for outgoing calls to personal numbers I have given they do have to verify identity apart from asking my name .

She made some remark about people impersonating me wouldnt be their fault

They also now use private numbers as opposed to 0800 numbers that you can phone back on . She alos told me that if I went 3 months into arrears it would be impossible to enter an IVA !

I think that with the eye of the goverment else where some creditors are quickly falling back into some of the more sharper work practises that they have always employed
 
 

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Post by kallis3 » Tue Jan 27, 2009 1:25 pm
Usually it's your date of birth as well as your name, plus your address sometimes.

I can accept that if someone knows the details that they ask for, then obviously MBNA will think they are talking to you, nothing you can do about that.

What a load of tosh about not being able to do an IVA! They really haven't a clue what they are talking about!
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Post by Adam Davies » Tue Jan 27, 2009 1:50 pm
Hi
This is where collection calls should be monitored by the various credirors. There is so much wrong information and threats given out by untrained staff.
If you are in "the know" then it is not a problem as you can just shrug it off but there must be thousands of people who believe all that they hear
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Post by gord » Tue Jan 27, 2009 2:07 pm
absolutely Andy - the problem being is that all collections dept are run like pressured call centres with targets for getting money in - so all they care about is persuading you to make a payment

I did laugh when she told me about my prospective IVA status. I asked her if she was a qualified IP now that she had started to give me Insolvency advice - her answer was how did I know she wasnt !

anyway I suppose this is just what you have to deal with along the rocky road of being in debt .
 
 

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Post by kallis3 » Tue Jan 27, 2009 2:28 pm
I think I'd have said that she wouldn't be working in a crummy call centre if she was!

With apologies to anyone who posts on here who works in a call centre!
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Post by brickwall » Tue Jan 27, 2009 8:29 pm
Hi All,
I had a similar problem with Halifax, my son answered the phone and by the time I took the phone from him they were already discussing overdue payments....he is 7 years old. They obviously did'nt ask any security questions as when I took the phone the lady was already in full flow of her rants. When I tried to speak she just spoke over me, it was obvious she was just reading out from a page in front of her. They are by far the worst of my creditors and have already sent warnings of collection department visits. If it was'nt for advice from Melanie's team I would be a total wreck now.
 
 

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Post by luluj » Tue Jan 27, 2009 8:41 pm
If it were me and they rang I would refuse to speak with them if they did not ask the security questions and state that until you were happy with their credentials as a company you would not be able to confirm whatever it was that they wanted 1
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Post by Breakdown » Tue Jan 27, 2009 8:41 pm
Brickwall

Halifax still ring me 10-15 times a day, I answer, don't speak, then put the fone down. (it spoils their call conversions) I know that because I work in a call centre.

As for security questions, I thought all businesses covered by FSA regulations have to do DPA questions before discussing financial matters. We have an outbound dept, they are definitely regulated, and all our calls are recorded.
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Post by gill.p » Tue Jan 27, 2009 8:54 pm
I work as a team manager in a call centre , and if we call outbound we must adhere to DPA.
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