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Post by plasticdaft » Fri Mar 06, 2009 2:59 pm
I am so glad that someone has a similar attitude to mine in that the children come 1st!!!!
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Post by Michael Peoples » Fri Mar 06, 2009 3:13 pm
It should come down to negotiation and a little common sense. If 1973 is offering his creditors £200 per month and a dividend of 10p in the £ his creditors would be entitled to be miffed at the school fees. If it is a reasonable offer and dividend return with a possibility that payments could increase when the children go to secondary school, creditors would obviously be more likely to accept.

In bankruptcy, if you refused to remove your children the OR or trustee would need direction from a judge and there is no guarantee that a judge would not deem private school as a necessity and allow the expenditure. It has been said in the past that children can not be made to suffer for the sins of the parents.
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Post by 1973nl » Fri Mar 06, 2009 3:21 pm
My return isn't too bad. Its the best I can offer anyway considering my I&E.

If they disallow the school fees, I would look towards BR and then they would get hardly anything in comparison to an IVA.

Like I say, I'll wait and see what happens!

I'll hopefully be having a well deserved drink come Monday night!!!
 
 

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Post by MelanieGiles » Fri Mar 06, 2009 3:22 pm
How much are you offering to pay creditors on a monthly basis?
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Post by 1973nl » Fri Mar 06, 2009 3:25 pm
Hi Mel,

It works out just short of £500 per month.

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Post by plasticdaft » Fri Mar 06, 2009 3:27 pm
How often do creditors allow the payment of school fees??
Just for many of us the thought of paying several hundred pounds a month for something thats also provided for free would appear to be a strange thing for creditors to allow.
I have no objection to people who can afford to pay fees to use a private school,but given that money is meant to be tight while on an IVA,and many of us have to work on a very strict budget for several years the idea that someone else can be allowed to spend an amount of money on private schooling appears unjust.

And Michael I think you will find that most children in families that have IVA's do have to suffer for the sins of the parents!!
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Post by MelanieGiles » Fri Mar 06, 2009 3:49 pm
In my experience - rarely, and only in exceptional circumstances.
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Post by David Mond » Fri Mar 06, 2009 4:34 pm
Creditors might accept the private school fees on the basis that alternative education in your area is hopeless and would have a drastic effect on your children. Fingers crossed for Monday though.
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Post by plasticdaft » Fri Mar 06, 2009 7:14 pm
It would be very hard to prove that alternative education in an area is hopeless and surely your children are entitled to a place in a state school. To offer £500 a month and have children at a private school costing more than you can contribute towards your creditors is surely a kick in the teeth to those you owe money to.

Good luck with whatever you decide to do,but realistically I wouldnt expect the creditors to go along with your plan.

Let us know how you get on.

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Post by Mandi » Fri Mar 06, 2009 7:26 pm
I agree with you totally Plasticdaft. 1973nl - you are offering your creditors less than your school fees, I'm finding it very hard to justify this and hope I am wrong but feel your creditors will also have this view.

Unfortunately children are affected by their parents mismanagement of finances, I certainly feel my children are suffering because of my incompetence in managing my money. We all want what is best for our children but sometimes we can't give them everything that we would like.
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Post by plasticdaft » Fri Mar 06, 2009 7:34 pm
Nail and head Amandadh31,while the forum is all about support I cant not post when someone says they are offering creditors £500 a month but paying more than that on schools fees. My son needs new shoes but due to my car needing repairs it aint gonna happen till next month so out comes the superglue. Children do suffer for parents mistakes,and thats a fact.
(we do have a monthly clothing allowance but thats been used up till june on car repairs!!)
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Post by 1973nl » Sun Mar 08, 2009 2:14 pm
Thanks all for your posts! I've been away for the weekend working so only just catching up.

I'll have to wait and see what they say regarding school fees when I have my meeting tomorrow.

Once I get a definate answer, I'll look at my options. I know what you all mean about my fees being more than my offer.

I couldn't move them straight away anyway as I would have to look around for somewhere else first. Maybe they would at least let them finish this year as a compromise?

I'll keep you posted.
 
 

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Post by kallis3 » Sun Mar 08, 2009 2:20 pm
Fingers crossed that it goes ok.
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Post by tori » Sun Mar 08, 2009 2:43 pm
Good luck for tomorrow 1973nl..will have my fingers crossed for you![:)]..
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Post by Skippy » Sun Mar 08, 2009 3:15 pm
Good luck from me as well x
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