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Post by flashingblade » Thu Mar 12, 2009 5:51 pm
Hi all

Im in my fourth month of BR, and today i received a letter about early discharge. They want another Income and expenditure form filing out. Our income has gone up by £50, but im sure our bills etc has too, so thats not a worry.

But now i also get £140 a month disability allowance. I obviously will declare it, but i just wondered if this is taken into account as my income for things like bills etc, when its actually for mobility and care.

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Post by David Mond » Thu Mar 12, 2009 5:54 pm
So presumably you have expenditure on mobility and care - so put that down.

As far as I am aware it is Income by the way, but I stand to be corrected!
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Post by flashingblade » Thu Mar 12, 2009 6:06 pm
well no not really, i dont have an I&E on my mobility and care, because it is for activities to get me out of the house, and to use public transport with support and this can vary every month, depending on what i wish to do.

If its classed as income then theres no point me having it, because i cannot make use of it.
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Post by David Mond » Thu Mar 12, 2009 6:11 pm
Well put down some outdoor activities that you would probably do to cover this income!
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Post by flashingblade » Thu Mar 12, 2009 6:14 pm
ok thanks, just in a bit of a panic!!
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Post by Lisa2009 » Thu Mar 12, 2009 6:35 pm
Make sure you list exactly what your DLA is used for. Make sure you explain that without it you would have problems getting out and about.
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Post by flashingblade » Thu Mar 12, 2009 6:40 pm
thanks.

I actually get it for depression and anxiety, and its supposed to be used for activities such as the cinema, meals out, just to get me out of the house occasionally. And the mobility part if to pay for taxis or for someone to come with me.
Im sure the OR will think im having a laugh!
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Post by Lisa2009 » Thu Mar 12, 2009 6:44 pm
Im sure they will be sympathetic. After all, DLA is not the easiest thing to get so somebody obviously says you need it. Dont worry
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Post by Adam Davies » Thu Mar 12, 2009 8:19 pm
Hi
I am sure that benefits do not count in determining income under bankruptcy
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Post by flashingblade » Thu Mar 12, 2009 9:02 pm
thanks, ill let u know how we get on. Hoping for early discharge in may!!
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Post by David Mond » Fri Mar 13, 2009 11:10 am
Andy to clarify the position:

Tax credits can be included.

Child Benefits - The only exception to the inclusion of state benefits in an income payments calculation is where a bankrupt is in receipt of child benefit, which is not an income based benefit (unlike child tax credit). The High Court has stated as a matter of public policy that child benefit should not be included in the statement of income when applying for an IPO and there is no reason why the same principle should not be extended to cover IPAs.

Disability Allowance - Where a bankrupt’s income solely comprises state benefits, it is unlikely that a surplus will arise except where they are in receipt of non-means tested benefits, for example Disability Living Allowance. The official receiver should consider that it is always open to the bankrupt who has a surplus and wishes to contribute, to make voluntary payments. If the bankrupt was minded to contribute on a voluntary basis, having been informed that their income appeared to be sufficient to produce a surplus taking in to account their reasonable domestic needs, a voluntary agreement could be incorporated into an IPA, but it would have to be clearly noted that no enforcement action would be taken if the bankrupt failed to make agreed voluntary payments.

Hope that helps.
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Post by kallis3 » Fri Mar 13, 2009 11:16 am
That's useful info David.
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