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Post by Menolly » Sat Apr 04, 2009 1:57 am
I am just in the process of applying for an IVA. I initially forgot to mention my student loan when giving details of my debts because I never really class it as a debt, as so many other places ignore it. However, I spoke to my person who will be drawing up my proposal today, and she said I will need to include my student loan as well. At first I was very happy with this, as it would mean my student loan would also be clear in 5 years. But then I searched online and found that the student loan company are unlikely to vote for an IVA unless they get a very high return (as I would still have to pay them if I was declared bankrupt). I'm not sure whether to try and include my student loan and risk them turning me down (it makes up just over 35% of my total debt), or ask my advisor to exclude it from my proposal, explaining the situation to my other creditors.
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Post by MelanieGiles » Sat Apr 04, 2009 2:04 am
It may be possible to exclude the student loan, so long as this is clearly explained to the other creditors. If you are not yet paying the loan, due to your income being below the threshold, then your IP will need to consider the effects on the IVA if the loan does become payable during the term of the IVA.

This is not an ideal solution, but one that does work in practice, but as ever you should seek advice from your own IP in this regard.
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Post by Menolly » Sat Apr 04, 2009 2:09 am
I'm already paying about £100 a month towards my student loan, so this would then go towards my monthly payment if it was included. It would require my employer to be involved to some extent, as they take the student loan payments out of my salary to pass on at the end of the year. This doesn't bother me too much, but I don't know how complicated it would be! Do you know how likely the students loan company are to vote for an IVA or abstain?
 
 

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Post by David Mond » Sat Apr 04, 2009 6:25 am
What percentage of your total debt is the student loan?
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Post by MelanieGiles » Sat Apr 04, 2009 8:42 am
The poster has confirmed it is 35% David.
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Post by David Mond » Sat Apr 04, 2009 8:51 pm
A senior moment [:(]. Unfortunately in an IVA then the SLC demand a high dividend - as presumably this organisation is owned by the government then this is a matter that will be discussed at the next Standing Committee meeting
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Post by wen » Sat Apr 04, 2009 8:56 pm
I seem to remember reading that Student loans require 90%+ dividend, as they are pretty much guaranteed 100% repayment + interest over someones lifetime if they reject the IVA.
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Post by David Mond » Sat Apr 04, 2009 8:57 pm
around 35p to 50p - and unfortunately they ignore "affordability".
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Post by wen » Sat Apr 04, 2009 9:02 pm
I thought it was a lot higher than that David, but they will certainly have a casting vote in this, if they are included in an IVA.
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Post by David Mond » Sat Apr 04, 2009 9:07 pm
I know as over 25%!
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Post by Adam Davies » Sat Apr 04, 2009 9:26 pm
Hi
Am I correct in saying that Student Loan Company Loans even survive bankruptcy ?
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Post by David Mond » Sat Apr 04, 2009 10:13 pm
That is a yes
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Post by MelanieGiles » Sun Apr 05, 2009 3:38 pm
I have been informed by the SLC that they will only accept dividends of over 90p in the £ David. Are you saying that you are experiencing acceptance at between 35p and 50p?
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Post by David Mond » Sun Apr 05, 2009 3:43 pm
Yes I am - but they have insisted on this level in a particular case but the DI is not possible to support it! They are a nasty bunch who do not understand realty and I have take steps towards Ministerial level to get it sorted.
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Post by MelanieGiles » Sun Apr 05, 2009 3:47 pm
Perhaps they expect you to have a magic wand as well David!!

Creditors who demand a specific dividend without regard to the client's own circumstances make my blood boil. The word on the street that I have heard is that legislation is due to be changed to actually exclude the student loan from an IVA in the same manner it is under bankruptcy proceedings.
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