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Post by chris5678 » Fri Apr 03, 2009 4:35 pm
currently on short time at work at the moment with redundancies likely in coming months so my mum and boyfriend have said they can gift me £4000 as long as the offer as it finishes the IVA the is about 32 months left to run on the IVA currently which works out at about £7000. could melanie or any of the other experts put their opinion on my offer do you think I have a good chance of it being accepted?
 
 

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Post by kallis3 » Fri Apr 03, 2009 5:05 pm
If you only have £7k left to pay, then I think £4k sounds like a good offer.
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Post by Lisa2009 » Fri Apr 03, 2009 5:56 pm
It does sound like a fair offer as you would be saving on some of the fees anyway.

Best of luck with it, i hope its accepted.
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Post by Adam Davies » Fri Apr 03, 2009 7:42 pm
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Under the circumstances it sounds a very good offer. Speak wityh your IP and see what thay have to say
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Post by MelanieGiles » Fri Apr 03, 2009 8:28 pm
Probably a little low in my eyes, but if you could show that you cannot afford to pay your IVA contributions in the future - which I assume is the case due to your short time working - I would have thought that this has every chance of success if presented properly.
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Post by chris5678 » Sat Apr 04, 2009 6:29 am
yes melanie short time working plus the was 35 redundancies last week very likely that more redundancies will come soon or they may even shut the place I have put this in the letter. and if i do lose my job i would not be able to earn the money im currently on so bankruptcy would be my only option.
 
 

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Post by David Mond » Sat Apr 04, 2009 6:35 am
It is a little low - I would expect around £5,750 to £6,000 under normal circumstances - however as you have stated the fact that redundancy looms and you are on short time working is a major plus factor. Ensure your IP articulates this in any report submitted in poutting the £4,000 forward - good luck.
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Post by chris5678 » Sat Apr 04, 2009 6:41 am
I'm suprised you all saying its low because I posted 6 months ago saying I was thinking of a final offer and said 5k then and you all said its a good offer!!!
 
 

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Post by David Mond » Sat Apr 04, 2009 6:45 am
But you are now coming back with a £4k offer!
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Post by chris5678 » Sat Apr 04, 2009 6:49 am
but have made 6 months payments in the mean time surely the closer you get to finishing the iva you put a smaller offer in! also I missed a couple of payment after the 1st year would this help my case for the offer being accepted.
 
 

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Post by David Mond » Sat Apr 04, 2009 6:53 am
Normally 10% to 15% is what I think the norm is and where I would make recommedations to creditors. There is also the position of IP's fees to sort out. Have you discussed yet with your IP?
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Post by chris5678 » Sat Apr 04, 2009 6:55 am
what do they usualy charge it is debt free direct im with i thought with the full and final offer ip fees was in the 4k figure!
 
 

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Post by David Mond » Sat Apr 04, 2009 7:00 am
Don't really know - but they may discount the supervisory fee that would be due to them if the IVA had lasted its full course - why don't you ask them?
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Post by chris5678 » Sat Apr 04, 2009 7:03 am
I will do on monday. So when you make a full and final offer does that figure you offering not include the fees to my IP or are they always seperate.
 
 

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Post by David Mond » Sat Apr 04, 2009 7:07 am
No your full and final is just that - my concern is what amount of fee will come out of that which would then leave a balance to your creditors and whether that would be enough!
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