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bouncyball

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Post by bouncyball » Wed May 20, 2009 2:00 pm
Hi

I was just wondering if anyone could help me with what I should say to my creditors when they phone.

I get really tongue tied and end up like a jabbering wreck [:I]. Has anyone got any advice on how to get the phone calls over with quickly and effectively so they don't phone every minute of every day [:(].

I haven't started the IVA yet, so far I have just been saying that I'm in the process of instructing a 3rd party to help with my situation and am unable to provide any payment at the moment. So far they have accepted this as this is only the first month of us not paying them. I'm just wondering what its going to be like as time goes on and they get more demanding.[:0]

I come off the phone a quivering wreck and immediately feel like having about 5 fags (even tho I gave up smoking 2 years ago).

any advice would be gratefully received.[:)]
 
 

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Post by ricbro » Wed May 20, 2009 2:04 pm
Unfortunately this is the part and parcel of taking this route, you do actually harden to the calls as time goes by, personally I was honest with them and told them exactly what was happening (most of the time) once or twice I 'lost it' and said a few choice words, other times I answered their security questions wrongly which means they cannot continue.
They do eventually stop, be strong and persevere, you have always got the good people on this forum to fall back on.
 
 

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Post by Michael Peoples » Wed May 20, 2009 2:09 pm
It is worth telling your creditors that you are speaking to an insolvency practitioner and are trying to find a way of avoiding bankruptcy. Ultimately, if you pursue bankruptcy creditors will get very little if any return so they may be prepared to wait a few weeks.

Creditors do not know whether someone who misses payments is a 'can't pay' or a 'won't pay' but if they know that are speaking with an insolvency practitioner they will realise that the debt problem is severe and you are not stringing them along.

As Ricbro says it is part of the process but hopefully it will not be long before the problem is resolved once and for all.
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Post by flumpy dog » Wed May 20, 2009 2:13 pm
hey BB

just wanted to welcome you

well done for getting started with the process-i so know how you feel its horrible and your stomach is all knotted

you could contact bt or whoever your line provider is and ask for a number change-i believe this is normally free if youre with bt you can call 150 to do this-tell them youve had lots of nuisance callseg sales double glazing etc.

you could also ring your creditors-some take a while to catch on as they have so many departments and just let them know you want to update your details and that the numbers they hold for you no longer exist-you could then just give them a personal mobile number so that you can screen the calls or if you have caller id use that to field the calls.

please remember that do not be embarrassed or ashamed of the situation youre in

you will normally find creditors quite intimidating when they call a lot of the time hun these people are from call centres and get commission and will try their damnest to extract cash from you try and be strong and hold your head high.


if you really feel you must talk to them explain that you are seeking financial advice regarding your financial situation and then politely hang uo DO NOT feel pressurised into continuing the phonecall

at present you are probably quite nervous and will be vunerable to these calls that will only make you feel worse-avoid answering if you can.

if you havent looked into an iva yet have a look on www.iva.com

here you can speak to an iva company/ip who can give you some free impartial advice.

hold your head high welcome to here and please keep posting [:)]
 
 

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Post by bouncyball » Wed May 20, 2009 2:14 pm
Thanks [:)]

Will carry on putting a brave front on and try to keep them informed and tell them the truth. I'd rather they know I cant pay then won't pay, as I know its our fault we're in this mess and not theirs.

Thanks very much for your replies [:)] its a relief to know there is such lovely support on this forum[:D]
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Post by flumpy dog » Wed May 20, 2009 2:27 pm
kal i hope you dont mind


BOUNCY BALL have a read of the below hun-might ease your mind a little ps dont forget if ever youre scared or feel alone jump on here and we'll make you feel better luv FD X[:o)]





IVA : How to Deal With Creditor Calls.


There is nothing quite like having a call from a creditor. Especially when they are looking for a payment.

Just the thought of a creditor calling can be enough for some people to avoid answering their telephone, especially when they don’t have the means to pay the creditor anything until next month.


However, it is important to realise that communicating with your creditors is the key, so try not to hide from your creditors, as a lack of contact can be more damaging in the long run.

If you have not notified your creditors of your financial difficulties before hand, the first contact you will probably receive from your creditors will be from one of their recovery team, or late payments department.

Their reasons for calling you are generally to find out why your payment is late, or did not arrive when it was supposed to, and to establish when you intend to make the next payment to them.

Different creditors have different tactics, but they will vary their tactics, dependent on how much you owe them.

Strangely enough, it can be the creditors who are owed the least money that cause the most upset.

If you put yourself in the creditor’s shoes for a moment, you can see that if somebody in financial difficulties owed you £20,000 it is unlikely that they will be able to repay you any more quickly just because you are using threatening behavior towards them, whereas if somebody owed you £300, you maybe able to influence the client to maintain some level of repayments by threatening action against them.

Not all creditors will call you regularly, indeed, some may not call at all, but when they do call the type of phone calls you can expect from creditors can vary immensely, from a courteous call and a gentle reminder to a full threat of legal action against you should you continue to avoid payment of the debt.

So here are some golden rules that you can use to assist you when your creditors call

Stay calm and be polite, even if the person on the other end of the phone is being rude to you.
Take the name of the caller and the name of the creditor concerned and keep a date and time log of your conversations as it may be useful later on.
Keep your call courteous, short and to the point, and try to avoid being engaged in a conversation about your repayments.
Do not make a promise of a payment you cannot keep, as this can make the calls even more difficult later.
Try to keep control of the call. Remember, you are the still customer.
Then, depending on your situation :

If you are entering into an Individual Voluntary Arrangement (IVA): Give the name, address and telephone number of your Insolvency Practitioner to the creditor, and explain to them that you are in the process of proposing an IVA. Ask them to contact your insolvency practitioner, as they are dealing with all your finances and have instructed you to refrain from making any payments to your creditors at all.
If you are entering into a Debt Management Programme: Give the name, address and telephone number of your debt management company to the creditor, and explain to them that you are in the process of proposing a debt management program. Ask them to contact your Debt Management company, as they are dealing with all your finances and have instructed you to refrain from making any payments to your creditors at all.
If you have decided to declare yourself Bankrupt: Explain to the creditor that you are unable to make any further payments and you will be contacting your local county court with the intention of petitioning for your own Bankruptcy.
If you are losing control of the call, explain that now is not a good time to discuss it, and ask them to call back at a more convenient time. If necessary, arrange another time to discuss your situation and hang up.
 
 

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Post by mikepapa » Wed May 20, 2009 2:28 pm
Bouncyball, I am also waiting for the calls to start, just in the process of sorting my debt out once & for all.
stay positive!
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Post by flumpy dog » Wed May 20, 2009 2:32 pm
good luck to you aswell MP !
 
 

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Post by bouncyball » Wed May 20, 2009 3:05 pm
Thankyou for your posts Fergiedoggy. It is a hard time, but its nice to know we're not alone. [:)]

me and my partner have decided to take it in turns to answer the calls, as most of our debt is in joint names, so we can do this.

Good luck with your calls mikepapa, we'll all get there in the end and be debt free soon enough. Its good to have the support of this forum to help us along the way.

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Post by flumpy dog » Wed May 20, 2009 3:11 pm
it will be hard hun and the next few months will be taxing.


look at what has happened as a setback ok youre in debt-weve all been there thats what makes this place unique-lots of lovely non judgemental people all sharing our problems together

hold your head as high as you can-dont get neck ache !

you are addressing your problems and you have some debt BUT you are not a bad person so anytime those nasty negative thoughts creep into your head tell them to bog off [:)]

we're here for you and MP

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Post by clareyfarey » Wed May 20, 2009 3:47 pm
Absolutely FD! Debt doesn't make you a bad person, just that you have found yourself in a situation that isn't getting any better.

And guess what? The only reason we're ALL on here is that we have all found our selves, in one form or another, in a similar situation.

Keep smiling, and learn to deal with the calls for now. They can't do anything to you over the phone, and you're taking the right steps to better the situation. The calls and harrassment will all stop once your IVA is in progress.

Chin up :)

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